I agree that we should have contested the change in rules for the PP when they were made. It is too late now. Let's just drop it before we embarrass ourselves further.

Like your work Steve....but writing to every other club to plead our case????....and for this draft......more chance of winning tattslotto I would suggest....

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Thrylos beat me to fuko!

But wait theres more Foki! (seal)

flower, fako, fakelo, foki the founders of the word @#$%&!!

Ps the board has no balls

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surely there has to be some angle on the fact that to gain pre round 1 priority pick you have to have had 16 points or less for consecutive years which is a total of 32 points over two seasons. well in the past 2 seasons we have won 32 points. the spew is an absolute c#$%. f#$% him and the AFL. whilst we are doing a pretty good job of killing ourselves, the AFL are certainly more than happy to aid the demise.

Do you mean carcass or circus. I've tried them both and they both make a valid sentence.......

How about a tactic like this....

Smorgon : Can we have our 2002 PP back please Andrew?
Jabba: No
Smorgon : Fine then, deal with Fraser Brown's mob in 2007 coz I'll be voted out unless I deliver it.
Jabba : OK then, good point - it's yours.

I know this is simplifying things, but Jabba is a very political being & with the enemy of my enemy being my friend & all that, I tihnk he'd rather keep dealing with Smorgon rather than Brown.

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No "The Spew" is just a cauliflower.


But if the tactic works go for it.

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Jabba is imune to the force.

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Evans is as much Essendon* as Mcguire is Collingwood.

The only way is legal action.

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Agree. Fitzpatrick obviously can't get the deal done so lets move it on.
Could be the best money the AFL have invested in.

It's a problem isn't it?

When you get one of your people onto the AFL commission it would make more sense to put one of your corrupt ones on there rather than an honest bloke like Mike.

We should have shunted Elliott in there years ago. It'd probably be the Carlton Football League by now if we had.

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I want Gibbs plus another top 5 pick. The board needs to show some real cojones.

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Take the bastards to court if we have to get what is rightfully ours and the pay off is there if we succeed.

If they really want to get re-elected and their legal advice tells them they can win, then Smorgon, et al should cough up the bikkies needed to take this further. But I doubt we'll do it because they didn't have the balls to trade Whitnall when we had the chance to bring another quality young player into the club.

And the Hawks might get Hansen, Thornton cheaply and another young player for Everitt.

Weak efforts and we're going backwards at 100 miles an hour.

The case sheet probably says 'arguable' - legal speak for you have a case. Doesn't mean you will win.

Then it's worth a shot!!

Arguable = you have a case. There is no precedence. But the devil is in the detail. However there may have been an oversight as far as the AFL is concerened and that may imply that Carlton does have a case.

What was stipulated in writing?
Was the PP just taken away, or was it categorically stipulated?
Was it again stipulated when we got Walker as a PP?

We don't know, but I'm sure that Carlton's Counsel have uncovered the gap. If Councel are confident in a win go for it, if they are confident and we lose, then don't pay them for their services.

I want Gibbs and Berger. Berger and Hansen would do me fine too, as would Berger and Gumbleton...Selwood, Sellars...2 top 10's will make a significant impact to the resurgency of the Blues.

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take the cauliflower to the cleaners.

pick 1, pick 2 - we trade throton for pick 6

christ - i would near wet myself.

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I've disagreed with people's posts on timing and cost, but we seemingly come from different viewpoints and experience...

But there is no way known that this would get resolved prior to this year's draft. There is no way possible to conclude this before then, assuming success.

We have got until 2.00am of the morning of the National Draft to do this thing - as that is as late as the AFL have changed the draft order to suit themselves - they can always change it this late again.

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Although it is an absolute bolter longshot has there been any movement on this draft pick issue?

Has Barry Mitchell been reappointed or moved on?