Fair enough, nightcrawler. I guess we'll probably never agree about this one.

In a lot of ways, I see the Thornton issue as dead and buried, and it will benefit the club better in the long-term by swallowing a bitter pill, and walking away from Thornton regardless.

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Fair enough mate, we will agree to disagree. It's like the Stevens/PSD thing all over again. Some people think they did the right thing and that there is intrinsic value in taking a stand. Others think they were just stupid and should have taken what they could get.

Port made up for the Stevens deal the next year by getting a 1st, 2nd & 3rd rounder (if i recall correctly??) for Josh Carr by drawing a line in the sand.

re-sign him in PSD. Teach him and others a lesson. It will save us players and money in the long run BNZ.

@#$%&! him, let Essendon* have him unless Hawthorn produce the goods. Let the bombers drool and let him sink into their burning wreckage.

Why are we so scared?

He's a player (think Godspell)

he's just a player

and I've seen so many players before
in oh so many positions
he's just one more.

He don;t know how to love us
doesn;t know how to play for us
he's just a player
another player
etc...


This provides opportunity
and space
and maybe a good pick or two

so hell trade him
or dump him in the PSD
and move on Carlton

there are plenty of other players in the deep blue sea.

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^^I agree with this. If Hawthorn don't offer us fair compensation, I'd rather re-draft him or let him go to a shit hole like Essendon* or Kangaroos than see us buckle and take a substandard deal satisfying both the traitor and the Hawks.

Also, why is pick 6 absurd for a player who has (and is capable of) playing full back for 5 years with a 100 games under his belt, considering Danny Jacobs went for pick 6 + Alvey in 2003 when he was a 3rd tall in the Essendon* team?

Forget that, how about this Marc Murphy plays well next year and his contract is up and he ask for $500 000 or more next year,while another club is willing to pay up to $700 000, what do u think will happen,will our board cave in.

None of the above poll suggestions.....I wouldnt redraft him and would take it on the chin like Port did with Stevens...didnt harm them and earned some respect..something we dont have much of at the moment.
I'd fix the board and coaching problem and make sure no one else decides its time to bail out of the sinking ship....thats more important than Thornton...or the draft...

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training partner."
- Conor Gillen

PSD is always full of hacks.
If dont see a diamond in the rough, draft thornton again, give him a fresh start at carlton. if he wants to play hard, lets play harder.

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none of the above as I don't see it happening.

Hawthorn will have to offer us something good or he nominates for the PSD.

We get in his ear that we will re-draft him anyway so he might as well sign so we don't waste that pick. It would look good for all concern if he did that etc etc.

We keep Thornton AND get the best available player in the PSD.

just cause t-bird wants out doesnt mean everyone wants out! shit dont do this too me!

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If he went into the draft there is no way we could take him.

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Why?

I wouldn't want him to be drafted back. If he is un-happy and he dosen't wanna play for us then goodbye.
We don't need shit like this at the club with all these young guys that we got and the guys that are comming.

Yes he will leave a hole in the back line, but he could do more harm if he stays when he dosen't wanna be there. First time he has 4 goals kicked on him the papers will be all over us. It's bad enough they will be watching Pagan like Hawk for 1st half of the season, we don't need this sort of stuff in the playing group aswell.

T-Bird is an un-happy footballer at Carlton and yes he is a handy player, but this opens the door for a younger guy. We have atleast 2 players who I feel should really be putting there hand up for a spot in the backline and that is Saddo and Hartlett.
A huge hole has opened for them and (bar injury) should both be pushing very very hard for that spot.

And besides if we pick him again we will be going through the same stuff in 2 years time.

Lets not hold onto something that we don't need and focus on the stuff we do need, draft picks!!

Hawks want T-Bird then have him, but we want picks. Carlton should be talking about getting the best pick the can for T-Bird and not talking about keeping him.

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AWWWWWW STEVENS.

gaping hole.
it is big trouble. lets hope that someone can step up.
i think we need sos back to help train someone to plug this hole.

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He'll get over it.
If Thornton is available in the PSD and he's the best option, we'd be negligent to pass him over.

Wayne Campbell is an example of a player who shit in his nest and demanded a trade, only to stay and play good footy.
Its "character building".

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Yeah it is a hole that will need to be filled, but it's not like he is now going to cost us winning the Grand Final, we have time to give somebody a chance to grow and fill the the space he has left.

We can give a player a chance, and player who wants to play for Carlton.

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AWWWWWW STEVENS.

I agree. Time and overall balanced development is of greater concern.

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Ich bein ein Carltonian

I'm feeling that.

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My sentiments exactly.

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.