Seriously if everyone of these Carlton supporters jumping on the radio complaining about Pagan don't put up, shut up!!

A source close to the board ....
I was speaking to someone on the board .....
A freind close to people on the board......

If someone is telling you about Pagan who is currently on the board or that person is receving feedback from a board member, tell us who that person is so we can piss them off. They are the root of all evil at Carlton, not bloody Pagan.

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I suspect most are using the 'sources close to the Board' in the same way as Frontline used to infamously pre-empt an assertion with 'some people say.'

Pagan is the root of all evil at the club. My source??? The wooden spoons I've received in my mailbox the last couple of years.

Think our club was in a bad state when he got there? Well it's a lot worse now. He needs to be a man and stand down.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

Let's march in the streets and storm Princes Park!!

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"...that's the thing about opinion - you don't have to know anything to have one..." Andre Agassi commenting on Pat Cash 2004
"...the less you know - the more you believe..." - Bono 2006

It's common knowledge know that the Carlton board is as leaky as a Indonesian fishing trawler, so how easy would it be for any old joe to state any old bulldust and claim that it came "from the board"... obviously people with nothin' else better to do than throw cr@p around, just because they like the sound of their own gums flappin' on radio...

Game, would you like to extrapolate on exactly how the club is a lot worse now - compared to pre-Pagan?! *I'd simply like to know your views*

ha! i honestly dont know who is at fault!
but hey we like the blame game!
anyhow. lets give pagan on more chance before we burn him on a stake.
if he fails we can all dance around the fire, chanting! it would be a commuinty bond building experience.
i still have faith that DP can deliver. Noone on the board should be saying shit. Especially to people who call talkback radio. honestly, Collingwood supporters named Bev call talkback shows.

but yeah. so those 2 want out? i think it is Carlton who decides they're out. you wanna play AFL football, live by the laws of the game. Dont go shopping yourself around or start crying about how you miss your mothers warm embrace. Does Carlton want two players on the list who will take the easy option? Its soft, and not Carlton.

A good season this year, which is possible will restore some faith back into the mighty CFC. Lets trade well and draft better, and build something we can be proud of. People need to stop thinking of Pagan and the Board as against us. Believe it or not they all bleed navy blue.

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dane's trolling again

What a wank. If we start worrying about tossers ringing up talking shit we have a massive problem within our own ranks.

TC smear campaign?

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Tell someone who cares. All I see is a rabble with back to back spoons. If a coach get $600,000 to produce the rubbish we're getting he gets one almighty bagging. If he gets that much he has to be accountable.

If someone has some information they're entitled to share it providing it's an honest account. In such matters confidentially in regard to your sources I think are important. Might reduce the credibilty a bit but it's your choice whether you want to believe or not. If you hear things along a similar theme enough times from different people/posters, then it's usually a case "where there's smoke, there's fire".

ALL OF YOU

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The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

If Pagan wants to be paid as a topliner, the members rightly expect him to perform as one.
Many believe he has'nt.
They are entitled to be heard.

Accountability and scrutiny can be a bitch some times.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

A the end of Denis Pagans tenure at the Kangas, he was accused on being in the job more for himself and less for the club.

I believe that he is doing the same thing now at Carlton.

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My Blue Heaven

Smear campaign. The only smear campaign is JR and T-Bird having papsmears before they join the Dawks and Power.

You think Ken Bruce has gone mad, the whole bloody Carlton community need to be checked into to have our heads checked, ALL OF US, even me, I'll be happy to lead the way actually as this past year is enough to make anyone a mental case.

I think I've heard and read every conceivable story, rumour, fact, possible in relation to everything Carlton, who knows what to believe? who knows if people want to believe? Lets just wait and see what unfolds, I'm onboard 2007 and I'm excited as we are 0pts with 15 other teams, that mean we are a chance, yes a chance. Chance = Hope = Positivity = Excitement.

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What happens after R1?

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Agree with the Game, Jim and BV.....and the Game is right calling for Pagan to stand down...how he can continue after recent events I dont know...

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"When you have the attitude of a champion, you see adversity as your
training partner."
- Conor Gillen

Could you please close the door on the way out Denis................

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'Carlton Supporters' start talking about tanking.

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In WADA we trust

After R1 is R2/D2

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