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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:56 pm

Harry Vallence

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How uninspiring.

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Orangewhip

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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:07 pm

Craig Bradley

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But...

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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:36 pm

Stephen Kernahan

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...head!

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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:52 pm

Stephen Kernahan

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who hired this clown? Pagan?

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malbi

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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:19 pm

Rod Ashman

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JohnM wrote:

It's obvious that our entire management team is terrible.

What! You don't think that they showed some spine during this trade period.

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Synbad

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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:40 pm

Bruce Doull

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malleefowl wrote:

JohnM wrote:

It's obvious that our entire management team is terrible.

What! You don't think that they showed some spine during this trade period.

would you call it a proactive trade week or a reactive trade week???

Thats what you have to look at.

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TruBlueBrad

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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:04 pm

Stephen Silvagni

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I reckon some of you would have whined no matter who we hired.

The supporters are as big a rabble as the club.

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jimmae

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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:52 pm

Bruce Doull

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Blue Vain wrote:

I personally dont know if Paul Hudson is much good but he has huge raps within the under 18 system. He held a development managers role in Gippsland. He created coached local football and joined the Gioppsland Power as coach.
He totally revamped the organisation and created an environment mirroring AFL clubs to make a progressive transition for his players.
He then coached his team to the TAC under 18 premiership.
He is very highly regarded in the area of football development.
Thats what I know.

Like Hudson, I dont personally know Gavin Crosisca.
His resume tells me he was a Pagan assistant at North.
When Pagan moved on he didnt take Crosisca with him. The Kangaroos then sacked him.
He then went to Hawthorn and was sacked.
He then tried to obtain another assistants role and wasnt offered one.
He has since coached North Ballarat.

Which CV appears the best?
Did Carlton interview Hudson or offer the position to Bond or one of the other current assistants?

I'd suggest this doesnt surprise anyone. Its the sort of standards we've set for ourselves now.

Glowing report for Hudson BV and I'm sure you're close to the mark.

But surely the head coach leaving the club (for whatever reason) had a role in Gavin's sackings as much as anything?

Plenty of good (well essentially good) people get swept to the side in regime change, although it is fair to say it's usually because they didn't speak up when they needed to.

TruBlueBrad wrote:

I reckon some of you would have whined no matter who we hired.

The supporters are as big a rabble as the club.

Sad but true.

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Blue Vain

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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:57 pm

Stephen Kernahan

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TruBlueBrad wrote:

I reckon some of you would have whined no matter who we hired.

The supporters are as big a rabble as the club.

A post whining about people whining.

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Blue Vain

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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:11 pm

Stephen Kernahan

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jimmae wrote:

[Glowing report for Hudson BV and I'm sure you're close to the mark.

But surely the head coach leaving the club (for whatever reason) had a role in Gavin's sackings as much as anything?

Plenty of good (well essentially good) people get swept to the side in regime change, although it is fair to say it's usually because they didn't speak up when they needed to.

Next time you quote one of my posts Jim, fix the bloody spelling mistakes will you?

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Trem

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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:22 pm

Adrian Gallagher

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Well, I hope it all works out for Gavin. Good gutsy footballer, so hopefully he can bring some of that to the list.

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Elwood Blues1

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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:37 pm

Mike Fitzpatrick

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TruBlueBrad wrote:

I reckon some of you would have whined no matter who we hired.

The supporters are as big a rabble as the club.

The supporters have been very faithfull and while they are whining it means the club still has them as supporters.....the club shunned the average supporter during the glory years when we were silvertails and owes all those loyal followers who stuck fat during recent years..
The present Carlton administration have about as much cred as those running Nth Korea and to label the supporters a rabble is insulting in comparison...

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jimmae

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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:23 am

Bruce Doull

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Blue Vain wrote:

jimmae wrote:

Next time you quote one of my posts Jim, fix the bloody spelling mistakes will you?

No more scotch for BV (you must be a scotch man)?

It's grammatical issshues (including some bad, bad syntax.. not that my syntax is ever shit-hot.

) with your post I'm afraid.

Perfectly legitimate points BV on both coaches, but you throw all the speculation towards your preferred candidate.

I say there's nothing wrong with a balanced view, especially seeing Crosisca has been appointed.

But who am I kidding? I'm just hanging around to denigrate you, not have a reasonable discussion.

Come to think of it, it would have been clever if my handle was an acronym for "Jerk Insistent on Making a Mockery of Absolutely Everyone".

So useless to come up with these things after the fact. :lol:

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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:34 am

Stephen Silvagni

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Synbad wrote:

malleefowl wrote:

JohnM wrote:

It's obvious that our entire management team is terrible.

What! You don't think that they showed some spine during this trade period.

would you call it a proactive trade week or a reactive trade week???

Thats what you have to look at.

2003 was pretty proactive. 2004 & 2005 wasn't bad either. Lots of trades done those years...lest we forget. :oops:

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TruBlueBrad

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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:19 am

Stephen Silvagni

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Elwood Blues1 wrote:

TruBlueBrad wrote:

I reckon some of you would have whined no matter who we hired.

The supporters are as big a rabble as the club.

We're canning the appointment of 1 assistant because he's worked with Pagan before. This apparantly makes him a 'yes man'. (Although he was quoted in the Hun this morning as saying he'll be Pagan's right hand man and have some involvement with the defence)

I have no issue with us whining about whats happened in the past, but lets not judge a guy and his appointment before he's even started. Lets wait and see who the other 2 assistants are. One of them may be Hudson. Maybe we approached Hudson and he told us 'no thanks'. Voss already did.

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CarltonClem

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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:45 am

Mike Fitzpatrick

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He was fired by the Kangaroos, then where did Hawthorn finish in 2003-04?

Answer: Down near the bottom...

I guess that makes him the perfect candidate for tanking.

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TruBlueBrad

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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:57 am

Stephen Silvagni

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CarltonClem wrote:

He was fired by the Kangaroos, then where did Hawthorn finish in 2003-04?

Answer: Down near the bottom...

I guess that makes him the perfect candidate for tanking.

So who are the better candidate's that were willing to take the job?

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thehalford

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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:03 am

Ken Hunter

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jimmae wrote:

It's grammatical issshues (including some bad, bad syntax.. not that my syntax is ever shit-hot.

) with your post I'm afraid.

So we have a new assistant coach. Good luck to him.

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BlueTerritory

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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:13 am

Adrian Gallagher

Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:36 pm
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Location: Back in Melbourne

Look I admit I am undecided whether Pagan is the right coach to take us forward, but he IS currently the coach. Now any coach in their right mind would want an assistant that they have good rapport and synergy with, as well as belief that they will make a significant complementary contribution.
Pagan is allowed 1 choice as things stand. Give DP a break-why shouldn't he use that only choice to choose someone he feels suitable for the role and to work with?

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Blue Vain

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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:37 am

Stephen Kernahan

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TruBlueBrad wrote:

So who are the better candidate's that were willing to take the job?

Unless you go through a comprehensive interviewing process with several targetted candidates, you'll never know.
Did they do that?
My mail says no.

Thats why I get frustrated. We have no excuse for not putting the time and effort in to do due diligence.
It doesnt cost money, just time and a professional approach.

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