Dont worry the critical (dont say negative) people will be positive again pretty soon when the positive things start to happen.

then when those changes are made will that mean that those who didnt want change and were happy along to baaaaaaaaaaaaa like sheep just jump on board as if nothing ever happened .. and they didnt know what the fuss is all about???

Sometimes you must have convictions.. and if you see something WRONG.. and boy are things REALLY WRONG at the moment it just isnt good enough to look away and la la la to yourself.. and pretend it aint happening is it????

and dont worry.. things will change!!!... and i dont need to support stuff that has been identified as TRASH and will be tossed into the bucket..

why should i???

thats why things will change .. not because things are good.. but because things are NO GOOD....

And if anyone here is foolish enough to pretend they have a woody with everything thats going on right now.. or dont want to be told criticisms.. well go play in a sandpit... this game is too big and too professional for you these days.

the days of supporting a semi professional leage are over!!!

Look around you for christs sake!!..
Look at the other clubs!!!

Look how far we have been left behind...

And Jarusa... instead of criticising those who are critical on here and criticising those who the critical are criticising awaY from here.. i think a backbone should be put on order.

Some of you people bitching about those critical when you know theyre right are akin to orgasm fakers!!... sounds ok... but comes across skinny.

Wanna support this board????

Show it at election time.. ok???
I wanna see some of you come election time SPEAK out at the AGM/EGM why you think this board/coach is doing a ripper job and who you really are 100% behind them and theyre being crucified by white ants..!!

cos thats what some of you are 'saying' in here.

Show me your convictions to what you believe...!!!

Then there are the other ids.. the kind that are happy enough to follow anything till they are in a train wreck.. and then they scratch their heads and wonder what the @#$%&! happened!!!

this is a train wreck!!!



dont just bullsjit on in here because someone might be reading it from the club and you want to come across as being all positive and loyal and stuff...

Cos that IS ABSOLUTE SPINELESS WEAK JELLYFISH BULLSHIT!!!
Thats what that is....

And its bullshit like that that got us into the mess were in in the first place!!!

Or do you have short flower memories?????

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Only if you believe it really.. and speak up in support at the AGM/EGM...
Otherwise dont fake ..

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I wanted Elshaugh gone and some other changes to support coaching staff - I think I suggested I'd settle for Donald Duck than another year of the same old same old from Pagan and Trout.

Wth Ratten and Crossisca on board I assume things will change on the field - unless of course they are Elshaugh dopplegangers. Which is unlikely isn't it?

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This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

The problem is Denis...

Did u know that Craig was Ayres assistant???

so what???

the coach stams his philosophy on a club.

The rest of them are playing ringa ringa rosey...

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The problem is every club has the same prob according to their so called supporters on every site you visit and all of them are in much better fetal than us . Ian Craig is being questioned and they were minor premiers.

God help us if we start winning it will all due to the posters on T C.

Then we will be truly stuffed.

When I see Ratten, Crossisca and the next one sitting in the coach's box nodding their heads in unison with DP I'll believe them both to be yes men. Until then Synners, you've got no better idea than me on what will transpire.

But hey, conjecture is fun.

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This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

Yet another thread drowned out by pessimistic CRAP!

Synbad (and I'll assume you're the leader of the pessimists FC), as I asked you in another thread, why can't you give credit when it's due? The club last week grew some cohunas and outfoxed the 'orgasm fakers'. Or were you too busy watching another Ron Jeremy video full of fakers?

Wake up to yourselves! Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Mine is the club is moving forward. Name another club that has stood it's ground like we did last week. The Hawks caved in at the last minute.

And yes' I'll vote, I'll speak up.

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Well thought out post there spider... unbelievable.

What youre saying is we shouldnt criticise elements of the club because we are doing really badly because when we do become good we would still have people criticising???

Is that what youre saying???


Because here is a newsflash to you.... another million dollar loss.. (wow!! amazing we had a full compliment of sponsrs according to the club.. plus around 29,000 members...

We have a coach who is hated.. but we cant get rid of him because the AFL and other powers have us by the kahoonas..

We have assistants who have shown nothing in the last few years.. when the game has changed so much!!!

We have a president who goes on the Footy show on the Tasmanian miners benefit night and asks for money or we will become insolvent.

We have a club thats being dragged from pillar to post by the media and ridiculed.

We have players that want to @#$%&! off.. FAST!!!

And we force them to stay.. we use guilt and bully tactics and say thats a victory..

YEP cant complain.. its all going rosey here at the Carlton Football Club these days...

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Good on you!!!

Full credit to you!!!

Yours is a club moving forward .. how???

Because it railroaded players into staying?????.. when they wanted to go???

Thats credit???

GEEEZ.. did i say anywhere they were gone????

I thought Russell might.. but it seems noone wanted him REALLY...

And you can call me president of whatever you want.. and ill call you the Tinman.

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and Popeye???

Dont forget to mention that it was Popeye that gave the support.. id hate to think you didnt...and you were just full of it ok??

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Be careful Synbad, that scene that you really like is coming up. Don't make a mess this time.

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thanks for the warning...

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Don't act dumb Synbad, you know exactly what I am criticising.

I'm saying strike a balance in your criticism. You might think what you are doing is helping the club, but it can go too far. Not everyone is as commited to the club as you are. There are 10 times more people here that just read and do not post, they are not as passionate about the club as you or I. A lot of them actually have a rather tenuous grip on their support of the club.

If all they read here is ridiculous amounts of negativity they will simply stop supporting the club.

That is the damage you can do, eroding the support base even further than it is being eroded already.

I know you cannot handle criticism on TC here very well, but you have to take responsibility for what you do.

Don't give me rubbish about me supporting the board either, I voted against the three incumbants at the last EGM and if the candidates are half decent this time around I'll be voting all 4 of them in nand actively campaigning near the election.

I don't join the conga line of suckholes after your posts because I am not a sheep and I reckon that you and your sheep are now doing more harm than good.

You might think every extra exclamation mark is ensuring the board will get voted out. Well guess what, they are going to be voted out exclamation marks or not.

Instead every extra exclamation mark is driving away marginal supporters.

I know this will be falling on deaf ears but just knock it back a couple of notches. Pretty please.

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Synbad, have you ever coached any sport at senior level.

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There's always another Greg Lee to vote in after a propaganda campaign and Maclure said he was clueless.

Top post... agree whole-heartedly as far as the marginal supporters are concerned... though I have to say I think that Synbad's negativity comes laregly from his passion for the club - which has been evident for quite a few years.

Synners, Fraser Brown has endorsed the appointment of Crosisca... he he'd alright, huh!?

ahh another thoughtful response.

Its back to the black and white stuff again.

So simplistic

and jar jar don't bother

its all bad

everything

cos that way we'll all get behind whomever

cos you know

we can't see the crosses and the ticks - apparently its all one or the other.


Remember my chicken little stuff

its just that going on and on and on

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Brown replied: "It's a good move from (Denis) Pagan and a good move from the incumbent board. I back it 100 per cent, and (Gavin) Crosisca. You can only get positive vibes with those guys about."

Looks like the "saviour" Fraser Brown thinks Crosisca is great.

Comments Synbad...?

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I've never understood how posting negative drivel on here over and over again is "making a difference", other than driving away genuine supporters of the club.