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1945 Carlton Premiership player Clinton Wines passed away earlier today.

Clinton wore number 10 in his 39 game career with the Carlton Football Club in 1945 and 1946 and was selected in the centre in the 1945 Grand Final, kicking one goal and being named in Carlton's best players in the Grand Final victory over South Melbourne.

His Blueseum profile below.

http://www.blueseum.org/cfc/tiki-index. ... nton+Wines

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Every member of that 1945 side can quite rightly claim to being an integral part of the spirit of Carlton.

Win at all costs despite the odds being stacked heavily against us.

RIP Clinton - you and your teammates legacy will live on for many years to come.



My deepest sympathies to the Wines family.

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Richard Pratt - A Carlton legend.

There is ony one "Bloodbath Grandfinal"; and the legend lives on.

Clinton Wines....from Wartime RAAF to play in a famous Carlton victory.

R.I.P.

Somebody successfully wearing Number 10 has my deepest respect. Condolences to the Wines family.

i've updated his profile on the blueseum-just added the link to the article and wrote the date of his death at the bottom.

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Last edited by true_blue3 on Mon Sep 26, 1981 5:07 pm; edited 92 times in total

RIP to another player in this truly legendary match, but the spirits of the bloodbath GF will always live.

Just how many surviving players from this side remain alive?

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My Blue Heaven

AFAIK those Carlton players still living from the 1945 Grand Final are:

Jim Clark
Ken Hands
Jim Mooring
Alec Way
Doug Williams

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Quick, get a camcorder and interview them for the Blueseum
I reckon that would make some of the more interesting footy related interviews that anyone could possibly view.

I bought this book last week, only about a third of the way through so far, looks like it gives a very detailed account of the 'bloodbath' with many of the participants being interviewed.

Aparrently Martin Flanagan did a few interviews with the players about five years ago for an article. I have not been able to find it though.

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All the best for the family.

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Ich bein ein Carltonian

That's a shame. Another link to our history has sadly passed on. Best wishes to the Wines family.



Wow...it'd be great if someone could interview him about not only the Bloodbath and his career, but the whole Jim Francis fallout as well. Big turmoil back then...

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Had an opportunity to get a preview copy of this book and did a review for another place. Well worth the read as it not only gives a quarter by quarter description of the match, but the early chapters also give a really good insight into the early development of the VFL. Here's the humble attempt at a book review.

There’s an old saying that goes along the lines … “It’s hard to know where you are going unless you know where you have been.â€

Thanks lodsie, looking forward to reading the rest of the book.

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Ken Hands was interviewed about the '45 Grand Final. The interview was done for the 1985 video production 'The History of the Carlton Football Club', narrated by Tim Lane.

Also interviewed are Harry 'Soapy' Vallence on how he was recruited to Carlton, Ron Barassi on the 1970 GF comeback and Mike Fitzpatrick on the 1979 GF win.

I bought that video for a couple of dollars on ebay a couple of months ago.

Some fantastic vision on it.

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You should get Molsey to contact the copyright holder and see if we can get permission to reproduce the video segments on the Blueseum. Molsey is good at that sort of stuff

All of them....

That's a pisser moshe.

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This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

*bump*



I bought that book yesterday. Riveting read. Fascinating look at the history of the sport and league in the 50 odd years leading up to that match, as well as the indepth analysis of the match and its players itself. A lot of things I didn't know - some I probably wouldn't have wished to know as well - but unfortuantely the book is littered with several inaccuracies - among them the Brownlow apparently being started in 1925, and the story of Les Witto, who was referred to as 'Witt' and 'Witts' in two sentences.

Still well worth the money though.

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