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Really people - Justin Madden - as nice a bloke as he is...couldn't run a bath. Believe me - I know...Sports Ministers get briefed on what is happening...they memorize this in order to speak to the press and (sometimes) answer questions (most of them are requested by Ministers Cheifs of Staff before they are asked them - although not SEN)...

...they also open things like skateparks - give speeches (not written by them - Justin rehearsas these in the car on the way to the event...sometimes) and sign off on many things. And that's about it.

So that's an emphatic 'NO' to Justin Madden. Hell of a nice guy...not CEO material.


So CEO's never get 'briefed' either. :lol:

:lol: This is hilarious, just because he is a politician he is being discounted.

Talk about myopic.


What is hilarious is your reaction when people disagree with you, you still haven't actually said that you think he would be a good CEO for Carlton.

Being a politician and running a business are two different things - eg - I wouldn't let Bracks run a milk bar and yet he is our premier.

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kingkerna wrote:
Jarusa wrote:
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Really people - Justin Madden - as nice a bloke as he is...couldn't run a bath. Believe me - I know...Sports Ministers get briefed on what is happening...they memorize this in order to speak to the press and (sometimes) answer questions (most of them are requested by Ministers Cheifs of Staff before they are asked them - although not SEN)...

...they also open things like skateparks - give speeches (not written by them - Justin rehearsas these in the car on the way to the event...sometimes) and sign off on many things. And that's about it.

So that's an emphatic 'NO' to Justin Madden. Hell of a nice guy...not CEO material.


So CEO's never get 'briefed' either. :lol:

:lol: This is hilarious, just because he is a politician he is being discounted.

Talk about myopic.


What is hilarious is your reaction when people disagree with you, you still haven't actually said that you think he would be a good CEO for Carlton.

Being a politician and running a business are two different things - eg - I wouldn't let Bracks run a milk bar and yet he is our premier.


That's not my argument (try reading the posts, you will find this helps a great deal :wink: ).

All I am saying is that it is ridiculous to discount anyone just because they are a public servant.

I have worked in the public sector and the private sector in businesses large and small and in my experience the quality of the people in the public sector is the same as the private sector.

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Fair enough Jars, but I initally discounted him because of his ability to do the job, not the fact that he is a public servant, if he was still an architect I would still have ruled him out.

It's fine for us to agree to disagree.

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We could always ask Roger Corbett, now is he isnt CEO of Woolies anymore....there is a man who can make a dollar...


Lives on Sydney's North Shore...doubt he would move. Committed family man and committed to his church from what I have heard (people at that church).

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We could always ask Roger Corbett, now is he isnt CEO of Woolies anymore....there is a man who can make a dollar...


Lives on Sydney's North Shore...doubt he would move. Committed family man and committed to his church from what I have heard (people at that church).


she'd be a full collection plate if old Roger was in the congregation surely??!!

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Part of business nous is being able to delegate and well as doing your own job. I'm not sure you'd really know if he had the business nous or not. I know which job would be easier.


For once, you and I seem to agree, jim... :lol:

Take a look at truly incompetent politicians who can't run a bath - Richard Alston/Helen Coonan - media and Telecommunications; Carl Scully - Anything he tries; Tony Abbott - Health; John Fahey - Finance and the NSW Premiership and so on.

And Harry was an Architect, not a primary school teacher.

I can't believe the bizarre standards, sometimes. Firstly, there's bitching and moaning that we don't want X, he's a goose, knows nothing; we don't want Y, he's just a media slut and nothing else; We don't want Z, he's a boring grey man and we need personality; we want ols club legends back, they will help reignite the passion and pride in Carlton.

Harry checks all the boxes we need to get the Club moving forward, even if his stay is temporary.

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We could always ask Roger Corbett, now is he isnt CEO of Woolies anymore....there is a man who can make a dollar...


Lives on Sydney's North Shore...doubt he would move. Committed family man and committed to his church from what I have heard (people at that church).


Roger Corbett couldn't be less interested in any competitive sports. It's the main reason why you don't see Woolies/Safeway sponsoring major sporting events/teams. Taking on the Carlton job would be so far down on his list of prioritites it's not funny.

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plus he would take a massive paycut. The options side to his contract alone would set him up for life.

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FFS! ....he doesn't tick one CEO box. I think some people on here are confused as to what a CEO does.

Over the last 2 weeks I've suggested 4 possible candidates ...they are either current CEO's or MD's with a proven record at a high level and within the walls of private tennis clubs around the world are highly respected business people.

As I think I previously stated...the hunt is on for a CEO of the Rugby World Cup (NZ) 2011. The headhunters are out there and those who throw their hat in the ring from Australia will be known to the Carlton Football Club within the next 2 weeks. That can only assist us when it comes to creating our shortlist.

Now - back to Harry Madden..

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And Harry was an Architect, not a primary school teacher.


...he was actually a Primary School Teacher before he became an architect...(St.Joseph's P.S in Abbotsford for memory)

Quite content for him to remain Sports Minister. Not even Graham Smorgon would be so stupid as to even approach him to be CEO.


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I personally hope that the CEO is not a Carlton supporter or person so he can be objective and not have to worry about offending the sensibility of past players.

I cannot see that Harry ticks any of the boxes to run Carlton. Matters such as corporate governance, ability to connect and network with people of all political persuasions, fundamental business law, and alike would preclude him.

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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
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Part of business nous is being able to delegate and well as doing your own job. I'm not sure you'd really know if he had the business nous or not. I know which job would be easier.


For once, you and I seem to agree, jim... :lol:



lol....... :-D


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Not even Graham Smorgon would be so stupid as to even approach him to be CEO.


What odds are you offering? ;)


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We could always ask Roger Corbett, now is he isnt CEO of Woolies anymore....there is a man who can make a dollar...


Lives on Sydney's North Shore...doubt he would move. Committed family man and committed to his church from what I have heard (people at that church).


Roger Corbett couldn't be less interested in any competitive sports. It's the main reason why you don't see Woolies/Safeway sponsoring major sporting events/teams. Taking on the Carlton job would be so far down on his list of prioritites it's not funny.

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Was only a light hearted comment......Roger is doing some consulting work in retirement I believe and has larger fish than us chasing him for his expertise....be a few people in the know buying some shares when they hear Roger is coming onboard certain companies....

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Deano Supremo wrote:
Roger Corbett couldn't be less interested in any competitive sports. It's the main reason why you don't see Woolies/Safeway sponsoring major sporting events/teams. Taking on the Carlton job would be so far down on his list of prioritites it's not funny.

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Not entirely true Deano - one of our major sponsors "Dan Murphy" is actually owned by Woolworth/Safeway. :wink:




If any smartarse comments that we are no longer a major sporting team - I will shoot them where they stand. :evil:

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one of our major sponsors "Dan Murphy" is actually owned by Woolworth/Safeway


Orchestrated entirely by 'Bruanwo'...Bruce Mathiesons love-in with Woolies (hence the name - short for 'Bruce and Woolworths').


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AGRO wrote:
Deano Supremo wrote:
Roger Corbett couldn't be less interested in any competitive sports. It's the main reason why you don't see Woolies/Safeway sponsoring major sporting events/teams. Taking on the Carlton job would be so far down on his list of prioritites it's not funny.

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Not entirely true Deano - one of our major sponsors "Dan Murphy" is actually owned by Woolworth/Safeway. :wink:




If any smartarse comments that we are no longer a major sporting team - I will shoot them where they stand. :evil:

:P


see above re: Bruce Mathieson Aggers.

I have a pretty close source reasonably high up at Woollies - and at the time Roger was resistant of the Dan Murphy's sponsorship. Fortunately he didn't really have a say in it at the time.

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Thanks Deano I knew about the Mathieson connection - we have a lot to thank that particular member of the Board for.

:wink:


In anycase I always buy my liquour at Dan Murphy, although not as much liquour as Dannyboy. :P

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Be willing to look past the regular footy heads and go for a business exec with great management skills and an understanding of marketing.

I think running an AFL footy club in Melbourne is a very unique task to take on.
The game/business is a religion, filled with emotion and extremely high profiled and pressured through the local media which feeds through to most footy supporters who have a connection with a grass roots footy scene and have some sort of an understanding of the basic ways their/a footy club operates.
I mentioned in another thread that I listened to an interview with Peter Jackson (Essendon* CEO) and he made a lot of sense in the way he explained how their needs to be a balance between the successfull business side of the club and the correct FOOTY decisions that need to be made so as to keep and grow the grass roots membership numbers.
I want 'a business exec with great management skills and an understanding of marketing' .... TOGETHER WITH an understanding of footy club politics and what the general members' footy club expectations are.

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