From the HS:

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,20641709%255E19742,00.html

Mitchell deserves a new contract...he has delivered on developing some younger talent and also did well with the Bullants.
Denis must be feeling a tad uncomfortable...
I see Tony Elshaugh will be getting a gig with the Saints...mistake No 2 from Ross Lyon....

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OMG...is this implying that some of the posts here and articles in the paper have not been correct....

well I never

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You've got to be joking.

He had the most talented 2s list of the competition and bombed out in the finals. His performance was very much like a St Kilda coach recently sacked... The club need to consider a coach that could eventually be elevated to the 1s. Mitchell does not have the support of all supporters nor does he have the charisma to inspire the players and people around him. There would be plenty of club greats in line before him.

That is a joke if Mitchell is offered a new contract. His coaching displays in Bullants final series was disgraceful. What is Stephen Kernahan thinking????

I think Barry Mitchell has possession of photos of board members in compromising positions, that is only reason why Barry will be at the club next year.

QFT.

I think Sticks is thinking about his mate, rather than being clinical about it.

That really sums up why we're in the shitter in a lot of ways to me.

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Gee, imagine making preliminary finals. I though our team had no talented. Now the 2's are suddenly the most talented. Gee, so much depth. Pity about the sppons. I'd have Mitchell way before Pagan. If our 2's are the most talented as you say Mitchell must be doing a pretty fair job developing them. Pity about the spoons.

Or it could say there's a very large gulf between the VFL and AFL.

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

That'd apply to the opposition too, surely. Could be about who they're playing under.

If Barry has photos of the board members I wonder what Pagan has got. Barry had a very good year as coach the only reason people are so critical is becuase they probably only saw the two games he lost they didnt see the rest of the year.

I'm happy enough with Mitchell being offered another year. His development work down at the bullants has been good and apart from the finals he had the team flying. He had the guts to give the likes of Russell and Bower a rocket about being accountable when they needed it.

If the team has a similar finals finish next season then maybe think about moving him on but I think he did a good job at integrating the two teams. His task is to give Aisake enough of a chance in the ruck next year as his education process continues and hopefully develop the likes of Bower and Hartlett into key position backmen.

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As much as I want Mitchell to stay the cohesion of theclub must be taken into account. Let Rats coach the 2's.


And I hate to say it but Sticks should take a backward step on some of these decisions. That slag Caro will be calling us the Conflict of Interest football club.

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im a little indifferent to it. baz may have done well with the kids for the season, but he seriously let the bullants down in the final series. there were some glaring errors.

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dane's trolling again

No I am not joking....I wasnt a fan of Mitchell before this year but after listening closely to him at some of the huddles and hearing his post and pre match comments I have warmed to his realistic approach to coaching and if you see the way a player like Setanta has developed that has to be due in main to the way Mitchell has guided him.
The Bullants had very good team spirit unlike the seniors and were beaten by teams that had better non AFL listed players....thats not Mitchells fault...
Sandy have a heap of dough and pay good money for those non AFL listed players and it gives them an edge which the poorer Bullants/Blues alliance cant compete with....

I dont see the comparison with Grant Thomas at all....

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Ratts shouldn't coach the bullies. His job is with the senior list (most of whom are under 23 anyway)... helping to pick up Pagan's not- inconsiderable slack.

From several accounts, Mitchell has a good rapport with most of the list. I don't agree with some selection issues in the finals, but overall I don't think anyone would be displeased with how the likes of Simmo and Blackers and Bower have/are coming along under his guidance in the twos.

The main issue here is a political one. You WOULDN'T give Mitchell another contract if you were concerned about the signals it sent regarding Pagan. Ergo, the board have demonstrated once again that they'd be perfectly happy if Pagan upped and quit tomorrow.

Which makes the decision not to sack him all the more baffling, but we may never know the truth behind that.

But if the club has no regard for Pagan's tenure, then the downside of keeping Mitchell is non-existent. In fact, it may be perceived as an upside... another insult flung at Pagan in the hope he decides to negotiate his way out of the club.

I think that Pagan is going to feel increasingly marginalised during 2007, with Ratts, Mitchell, Bradley and Kernahan his 'assistants'... and wouldn't be at all surprised if (a) Pagan and the club come to an 'arrangement' after 8 weeks if we're 1 and 7, or (b) he gets the arse at the end of the year with a negotiated payout (much easier to do this when there's only a year of a contract to run).

Do tell.
We had the most talented list in the competition did we?
How did you rate our list compared to say...Sandringhams?
As for charisma, I'd be interested to know who has it. Does Worsfold?

i'd suggest Elwood gave a well thought out response with some intelligent points.
Much more tangible than "charisma".

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I agree JohnM that if Pagan isnt at least on the board by round 5 to 7 with some wins the club will be forced to act but I dont think Mitchell should automtically get the job.

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I reckon this adds more weight to my "Pagan has coached his last Carlton Game" theory.

You heard it here first - Barry Mitchell will be senior coach prior to round one.

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shit no - I wasn't suggesting that mitchell should get the senior coaching gig.

although if it was a caretakers role for less than half a season, he might.

All depends on the makeup of the board next season. Could be some big changes, which would obviously affect the coaching situation.

Personally, if we had to appoint a caretaker, I'd like to see what Ratts could do.

Sorry JohnM I did have a line in my original post about how i wasnt putting words into your mouth but I dropped it out.


Mitchell at a pinch to caretaker but if it is a full season then Longmire and Mckenna etc would have to be part of the review.

Get Wallsy and ol man Parkin onto it.

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