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Good result for Mitch in my opinion.
Hopefully he'll have a real nuts and bolts role in the development of the Carlton kids, plus a recruiting involvement will only enhance his knowledge.

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On the face of it, seems like a good compromise.

No longer in the seniors coaching box (if I understand correctly), still coaching the blueants, but now with a development role within the CFC football department.

For those in the know, is this a new position in the football department? Have the club had someone focusing on development like this before?

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Jarusa wrote:
Have the club had someone focusing on development like this before?


Are you waving that red rag at me intentionally Jars!!!! :lol:

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Blue Vain wrote:
Jarusa wrote:
Have the club had someone focusing on development like this before?


Are you waving that red rag at me intentionally Jars!!!! :lol:


No, :lol: serious question.

I'm fairly positive this position has never existed before, just after some confirmation from someone.

If it is a new position that is a step in the right direction.

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For the good of the Football club, either empower Denis or sack him. Everything the board does is friggin fifty cents each way.


Agree Bookie.

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Cazzesman wrote:
Doubt there will be any more coaches.

Full Time
Pagan
Libba
Rats
Crosisca


Part Time
Braddles
TD
Gary D

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Mitch

Surely that is enough.

Regards Cazzesman


I'm sure when the appointed Bradley they said there was still one more assistant to be appointed.

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You've got to be joking.

He had the most talented 2s list of the competition and bombed out in the finals. His performance was very much like a St Kilda coach recently sacked... The club need to consider a coach that could eventually be elevated to the 1s. Mitchell does not have the support of all supporters nor does he have the charisma to inspire the players and people around him. There would be plenty of club greats in line before him.


Do tell.
We had the most talented list in the competition did we?
How did you rate our list compared to say...Sandringhams?
As for charisma, I'd be interested to know who has it. Does Worsfold? :?

i'd suggest Elwood gave a well thought out response with some intelligent points.
Much more tangible than "charisma".


3000+ posts and you come up with that shit :oops:


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Mitchell deserves a new contract...he has delivered on developing some younger talent and also did well with the Bullants.
Denis must be feeling a tad uncomfortable...
I see Tony Elshaugh will be getting a gig with the Saints...mistake No 2 from Ross Lyon....


You've got to be joking.

He had the most talented 2s list of the competition and bombed out in the finals. His performance was very much like a St Kilda coach recently sacked... The club need to consider a coach that could eventually be elevated to the 1s. Mitchell does not have the support of all supporters nor does he have the charisma to inspire the players and people around him. There would be plenty of club greats in line before him.


Gee, imagine making preliminary finals. I though our team had no talented. Now the 2's are suddenly the most talented. Gee, so much depth. Pity about the sppons. I'd have Mitchell way before Pagan. If our 2's are the most talented as you say Mitchell must be doing a pretty fair job developing them. Pity about the spoons.


Jimbo, you keep mentioning spoons? What's this got to do with the 2s?
Try making an argument that actually makes sense.


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Cazzesman wrote:
Doubt there will be any more coaches.

Full Time
Pagan
Libba
Rats
Crosisca

But that list of full time and match day coaches doesn't exactly fill me with confidence when I see all the names on the one list. A recently retired player like Williams or experienced coaches like Anthony Rock and Paul Hudson should have been targeted instead of Crosisca and Libba given the pink slip.

Surely our young list would have been as an attractive option as working with someone like Matthews? :?


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blue-insider wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
blue-insider wrote:
You've got to be joking.

He had the most talented 2s list of the competition and bombed out in the finals. His performance was very much like a St Kilda coach recently sacked... The club need to consider a coach that could eventually be elevated to the 1s. Mitchell does not have the support of all supporters nor does he have the charisma to inspire the players and people around him. There would be plenty of club greats in line before him.


Do tell.
We had the most talented list in the competition did we?
How did you rate our list compared to say...Sandringhams?
As for charisma, I'd be interested to know who has it. Does Worsfold? :?

i'd suggest Elwood gave a well thought out response with some intelligent points.
Much more tangible than "charisma".


3000+ posts and you come up with that shit :oops:


Yes, you win.
It only took you 65 posts to come up with your uninformed, nonsensical dribble.
I must be a slow learner. :wink:

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Jarusa wrote:
On the face of it, seems like a good compromise.

No longer in the seniors coaching box (if I understand correctly), still coaching the blueants, but now with a development role within the CFC football department.

For those in the know, is this a new position in the football department? Have the club had someone focusing on development like this before?


Keep taking those happy pills Jars.
He is not in the box because Pagan does not want him in there, in fact he does not want him at the club.
The decison makers at the club will only be having 50 cents eachway bets during the cup carnival.


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Mitch is at the club because the Brown group had to be pacified and thats also why Braddley and Ratten are at the club.
Also... the noose is tighter around Denis neck.

All goes well for stability.

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The way this looks to me is that the only thing they have done is get rid of Elshaugh and appoint Brett Ratten. The Braddles thing is only a front chances are he wont even front up.

So an entire football department revue was conducted all the dirty linen was hung out in the public for everyone to pick at and the only thing was Elshaugh - Out
Ratten - In

They are a bloody joke thank god they are making changes to the list

Elshaugh you dirty scum you rooted this club and we are glad to see the back of you . Our perfomances over the past 4 years lie at your feet how on earth can you live with your self :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol:

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Sydney Blue wrote:
The way this looks to me is that the only thing they have done is get rid of Elshaugh and appoint Brett Ratten. The Braddles thing is only a front chances are he wont even front up.

So an entire football department revue was conducted all the dirty linen was hung out in the public for everyone to pick at and the only thing was Elshaugh - Out
Ratten - In

They are a bloody joke thank god they are making changes to the list

Elshaugh you dirty scum you rooted this club and we are glad to see the back of you . Our perfomances over the past 4 years lie at your feet how on earth can you live with your self :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol:


Out-Elshaugh
In-Crosisca, Ratten, Bradley

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TruBlueBrad wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
The way this looks to me is that the only thing they have done is get rid of Elshaugh and appoint Brett Ratten. The Braddles thing is only a front chances are he wont even front up.

So an entire football department revue was conducted all the dirty linen was hung out in the public for everyone to pick at and the only thing was Elshaugh - Out
Ratten - In

They are a bloody joke thank god they are making changes to the list

Elshaugh you dirty scum you rooted this club and we are glad to see the back of you . Our perfomances over the past 4 years lie at your feet how on earth can you live with your self :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol:


Out-Elshaugh
In-Crosisca, Ratten, Bradley


I forgot about that Collingwood bloke :lol:

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blue-insider wrote:
jim wrote:
blue-insider wrote:
Elwood Blues1 wrote:
Mitchell deserves a new contract...he has delivered on developing some younger talent and also did well with the Bullants.
Denis must be feeling a tad uncomfortable...
I see Tony Elshaugh will be getting a gig with the Saints...mistake No 2 from Ross Lyon....


You've got to be joking.

He had the most talented 2s list of the competition and bombed out in the finals. His performance was very much like a St Kilda coach recently sacked... The club need to consider a coach that could eventually be elevated to the 1s. Mitchell does not have the support of all supporters nor does he have the charisma to inspire the players and people around him. There would be plenty of club greats in line before him.


Gee, imagine making preliminary finals. I though our team had no talented. Now the 2's are suddenly the most talented. Gee, so much depth. Pity about the sppons. I'd have Mitchell way before Pagan. If our 2's are the most talented as you say Mitchell must be doing a pretty fair job developing them. Pity about the spoons.


Jimbo, you keep mentioning spoons? What's this got to do with the 2s?
Try making an argument that actually makes sense.


It's about some having a go at Mitchell for "failing" in the finals so I'm making a comparison for the simple minds like yourself who aren't smart enough to understand.


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jim wrote:
blue-insider wrote:
jim wrote:
blue-insider wrote:
Elwood Blues1 wrote:
Mitchell deserves a new contract...he has delivered on developing some younger talent and also did well with the Bullants.
Denis must be feeling a tad uncomfortable...
I see Tony Elshaugh will be getting a gig with the Saints...mistake No 2 from Ross Lyon....


You've got to be joking.

He had the most talented 2s list of the competition and bombed out in the finals. His performance was very much like a St Kilda coach recently sacked... The club need to consider a coach that could eventually be elevated to the 1s. Mitchell does not have the support of all supporters nor does he have the charisma to inspire the players and people around him. There would be plenty of club greats in line before him.


Gee, imagine making preliminary finals. I though our team had no talented. Now the 2's are suddenly the most talented. Gee, so much depth. Pity about the sppons. I'd have Mitchell way before Pagan. If our 2's are the most talented as you say Mitchell must be doing a pretty fair job developing them. Pity about the spoons.


Jimbo, you keep mentioning spoons? What's this got to do with the 2s?
Try making an argument that actually makes sense.


It's about some having a go at Mitchell for "failing" in the finals so I'm making a comparison for the simple minds like yourself who aren't smart enough to understand.

I've heard Mitchell is popular with the players and that he has done well with developing the young players, but you would have re-signed Grant Thomas using your argument. But he hasn't succeeded in the finals so get off your high horse.


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Regardless of the ability or otherwise of Mitchell, this actually smacks of indecision and compromise. The CFC board has managed to put itself into the position of potentially getting the worst of both worlds through its lack of action.

Pagan and Mitchell don't respect each other, and as a result there will be unrest and an uncomfortable working situation for the coaches. This has to make the Carlton footy club a worse place to be for the players.

I wish someone would show some balls and make a decision that is in the best interest of the club in the long term, not in their own short term interests.


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steve wrote:
Regardless of the ability or otherwise of Mitchell, this actually smacks of indecision and compromise. The CFC board has managed to put itself into the position of potentially getting the worst of both worlds through its lack of action.

Pagan and Mitchell don't respect each other, and as a result there will be unrest and an uncomfortable working situation for the coaches. This has to make the Carlton footy club a worse place to be for the players.

I wish someone would show some balls and make a decision that is in the best interest of the club in the long term, not in their own short term interests.


Could not agree more. The decision makers at the club will all be having 50 cents eachway on the first Tuesday in November.


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JuzzCarlton wrote:
jim wrote:
blue-insider wrote:
jim wrote:
blue-insider wrote:
Elwood Blues1 wrote:
Mitchell deserves a new contract...he has delivered on developing some younger talent and also did well with the Bullants.
Denis must be feeling a tad uncomfortable...
I see Tony Elshaugh will be getting a gig with the Saints...mistake No 2 from Ross Lyon....


You've got to be joking.

He had the most talented 2s list of the competition and bombed out in the finals. His performance was very much like a St Kilda coach recently sacked... The club need to consider a coach that could eventually be elevated to the 1s. Mitchell does not have the support of all supporters nor does he have the charisma to inspire the players and people around him. There would be plenty of club greats in line before him.


Gee, imagine making preliminary finals. I though our team had no talented. Now the 2's are suddenly the most talented. Gee, so much depth. Pity about the sppons. I'd have Mitchell way before Pagan. If our 2's are the most talented as you say Mitchell must be doing a pretty fair job developing them. Pity about the spoons.


Jimbo, you keep mentioning spoons? What's this got to do with the 2s?
Try making an argument that actually makes sense.


It's about some having a go at Mitchell for "failing" in the finals so I'm making a comparison for the simple minds like yourself who aren't smart enough to understand.

I've heard Mitchell is popular with the players and that he has done well with developing the young players, but you would have re-signed Grant Thomas using your argument. But he hasn't succeeded in the finals so get off your high horse.


No, I won't. I'll get on any damn horse I want. Try thinking a bit deeper. Apparently Mark Willims failed in finals too, until he won a premiership. Same with Malcolm Blight. At 17-1 record, you're doing well. Be better, even in the short term, than the crap we have currently, who's most unpopular with the players. At least we might win some games. Be happy with the 2 Preliminary finals Thomas got the Saints given our current situation. Didn't get the ultimate but he wasn't a failure. Imagine they'd give the gig to Ratten anyway.


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