Some people arent cut out to go to school...

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If he hangs out enough at the tuck shop, he may work out which side to butter his toast.

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Mens sana in corpore sano.

Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

Fair comment.....I think a few of us have suggested that Sticks used by date has been reached however his enduring popularity and link to a successful past has given him martyr type status at the club and I dont see the average less informed punter voting him out.

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"When you have the attitude of a champion, you see adversity as your
training partner."
- Conor Gillen

Wes Lofts as a footballer was in the Jack Dyer vernacular "only a good ordinary player" and was regularly pantsed by the full forwards of the day, in 1969 Grand Final Billy Barrott ran amok on Wes after half-time and essentially won the game for Richmond when shifted to Full Forward.

Wes's on-field tough guy reputation is not borne out - when you talk to the people that know.


I think its fair to say the comparisons between Lofts and Kernahan need to be made in two categories:

1. On field - Sticks clearly superior
2. Off Field - I think the jury was ready to read out their verdict a long time ago.


But off-field is a different story and his time as Chairman of Selectors and match day tactician are second to none:

- who was sitting in the coaches box during the 1979 Grand Final whilst Jezza was on the field - Wes Lofts

- who was sitting next to David Parkin in the Coaches Box during the 81 and 82 Grand Final - Wes Lofts

- who was sitting next to Robert Walls in the Coaches Box during the 1987 Grand Final - Wes Lofts.

Off field very astute was Wes Lofts.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Did anyone read the artical on Frankie Peckett about his days at the Saints. If you ever wanted to know why the Saints were crap for so long - he sums it up nicely.

However the bit that is relevant is where he talks about how different coaches came in and slowly made the place more professional - but it was not until the Rod Butters arrived as president that the place really changed.

Food for thought on how important the president position is to a footy club.

Agree Ciccio...the fish rots at the head.

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Mens sana in corpore sano.

Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

Well i think we have found our sneaky leaker:

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 42,00.html

Mr Valcorp appears to be the man!! Its all coming out now ready for the big bang in a couple of weeks i think. Lets the games begin, we have war on our hands

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Mjonc signing off at 8888

Oh its all about to happen alright!!!

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Hope you're right synbad, because this club just seems to be going around in circles and hopefully the new ticket will include the right type of people to lead this club back to greatness.

I just hope it happens before the new year, so that we can go into 07 with new blood and enthusiam in our playing list, coaching department and board.

When it happens you just watch them all run to the hills....

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I'm not sure why Jim Wilson is writing that Bruce Mathieson is 'flagging his intention to quit at the end of the year'...fact is - he is.

But it's also common knowledge to Jim Wilson that Mathieson is keen to shape any incoming board replacements...I can assure you that Bruce is not the 'sneaky leaker' - but if somethings brewing and he doesn't like it - he is powerful enough to halt it.

There are moves afoot...and it wouldn't surprise me if there was a Carlton Christmas Coup.

Isnt Bruce heading North to live?

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Ich bein ein Carltonian

no chance of any backflips with double pike?

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There's so much I could say...

This BF thread entitled "the facts about Carlton's week from hell part II" is probably worth a read. No idea if it's correct or not, but it's certainly a lot less ambiguous than a lot of stuff that has been posted here.

Names Mr Gleeson as our leaky sneaker.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=279636

To the board and those with influence - we need this sorted soon. Bring it on or go away. Continued speculation on the boards and the presidents future (which has been confined to chat boards but is now begining in the press and on radio) again threatens to trash our brand and make us look like the laughing stock of the AFL. Either bring it on now, or get behind Smorgon and his tribe (and die a slow death).