fev is the clubs most important player. without him this year...my god i dont even want to contemplate what it would have been like...when brendan fevola fires, when he gets fired up, carlton wins...carlton plays exciting footy. hes the one who really gets the team going...he gets pumped, the rest of the guys get pumped...he deserves to have his contribution and importance to the team recognised. hes basically the unofficial captain anyway, hes the face of the club, the marquee player...it doesnt really matter who they name as captain cos from where i sit hes the spiritual captain of the team already.

he does all that captain stuff already anyway.

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All good points, Sean, but the fact is he's been involved in a serious incident in Ireland and has been sent home. If it was a minor incident, I think he'd still be there.

He needs to know what he did was wrong and I can't think of a better way to do it than taking him out of the leadership group and telling him to get back there he needs to knuckle down and work his arse off.

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I'd loke to know all the facts about the Fevola incident before I crucify him.

He hasn't taken drugs, he hasn't raped anyone, he hasn't stolen anything, he hasn't been involved in any violent act...he's had a piss....we all piss.

Captain: Stevens
Vice Capt: Whitnall and Fevola
Deputy Vice Capt: Simpson, Walker, Scotland, Waite
Youth leaders: Murphy, Kennedy

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How do you know that he needs to win back his team mates respect. How do you know that they have lost any respect for him? I doubt any have.

In most work places it's not the drinkers or the occasional brawlers that don't have respect of their peers, it's the one's that cant do thier job properly. Fev does his job better than most at Carlton.

Lance will probably be captain. I'd be comfortable if Fev was vice. I'd love Murphy to be captain 08 but that may be too early for the kid.

i doubt he would of lost anyones respect. he hasnt lost mine, thats for sure. i couldnt care less that hes *supposedly* gotten in a brawl on what is essentially a end of season trip after having a bit to drink. i think if you ask anyone in the street tomorrow they would not care a single bit that brendan fevola *supposedly* got in a fight in ireland. i still endorse him for captain because all of the positive things he does for our club, both on and off the field.

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temporary captain until murph wants it: whitnall
vice: stevo/simmo

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we're not debating the Australian captancy here ... he has done no crime against his CARLTON teammates ...

If the players don't play for Fev next year then we are flicked because very few others have been inspiring them on the field...

I won't be surprised if T-Bird has been offered either the Captain or Vice Captain position as part of the re-signing deal.

Now with the club 5 years and has a new 3 year deal, so will absolutely be the Backline General for out immediate to mid-term future.

I'm also surprised his name hasn't already been mentioned in this thread.

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Why dont we go for the future and give it to Andrew Walker,he has played for nearly 4 years now.If the club gives it to Whitnall,we are going to be laughed at,seeing some guy struggling as our Captain.

Walker = Runs/Wins
Whitnall =Go Back To Bed and Eat Potato Chips

That's a big deal,but more of a big deal for me, is he wanted to be a Police officer and there he goes starting some fights in Ireland,that just prove how most footballers and people today are so up themselves, that they can do what they want because of money or because they young and dont respect other people property and stuff.

Sure,but if it's true,he should be off any police recruitment,we dont need people like that in the police force,if he is still going to pursuit it after footy.
There should be no way,someone is allowed as a Cop if he is found guilty of fighting for kicks.

It's one thing to say "when Fevola fires we win", and another thing to note we have only won about 24 times in the past five years.

As I have said for a long time...

Captain: Lance Whitnall
Vice Captains: Nick Stevens, Matthew Lappin

The rest can work themselves out, but I expect the leadership group to also contain T-Bird, Scotland, Simmo and Walks. Fev can sit in purgatory for a while.

Disagree PJ - lets keep a bit of perspective here. Who says he has lost the respect of his teammates?

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I can't believe this is receiving all of the press that it is. Even though I love the Blues, one of my best mates played for the Roos so I joined him on an end of season footy trip a few years back when the boys went to New Orleans. What Fev did is mild in comparison! No one is trying to defend Fev (not least himself) but it is hardly a capital crime. Let him get back to his family and let him focus on the year ahead. I don't think any of his team-mates would think twice about what happened!

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So the general consensus is that the bloke that basically won us silverware off his own boot in the 2005 wizard cup - 8 goals - against the Eagles of all teams... and the bloke that won the coleman medal - the first carlton player in 40 years to do so - isn't good enough to be in our leadership group.

Leadership on the field is the most important aspect from where i stand.

there have always been rogues in the game - van der haar, crackers keenan etc... Fevola made the sacrifices this year and won THE COLEMAN MEDAL IN THE WORST CARLTON TEAM IN HISTORY - What more do you want from him ?

I think you have to stick with Fev in the leadership group...dont reward him with the captains job but let him know you have not lost faith in him and make him VC. Throw down the challenge to him to lift his game and make up for what he has done...he had a great 2006 bar this incident and showed when he is off the grog he can do it....
I think you have to challenge him to respond to what has happend in a positive way...make some rules for him , set some boundaries but dont destroy him by taking away some positives....I think leading the club was a genuine goal he had and you still need that carrot to dangle...a smart footy club would help not over punish him...

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Argue Fev's case all you like. Fev won't be in the leadership group at Carlton... not at the moment anyway.

Fev is the Shane Warne of the Carlton Football Club. He is just trouble waiting to happen. However, he is a master at his craft. OK. So Shane Warne may not be a good comparison, but hopefully you get my drift. Fev has had a chequered past and 9 months of good behaviour does not cut it in my book.


Are we still living in the 70's tap?

When did Warne ever Physically manhandle anyone?

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If he gets charged with assualt, it is a criminal charge which if found guilty, can lead to a jail sentence.

For all those conspiracy theorists out there, consider that the AFL's 'hard-handed' (as many on here seem to think it is) response to all of this might actually have been done in the best interests of Brendan Fevola.

Maybe the Demetriou, Sheedy et al were sitting there thinking, the last thing anyone involved with Australian footy needs,a nd the last thing that Fevola needs, is for Fevola to be charged with assault, and face jail time in Ireland. What we need to do is get him out of this country ASAP, so as to avoid or diminsh that possibility. How do we do that? Let's go hard on him, and send him home. Done.

*Collectively dust hands at mission achieved*

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