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Are Jim Wilson and Caroline Wilson married?? or sleeping with the same source. Funny how they get the inside news first.


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Are Jim Wilson and Caroline Wilson married?? or sleeping with the same source. Funny how they get the inside news first.


They're not related....Caro is the Daughter of Multi Millionaire Ian Wilson who was President of Richmond at the height of their power in the 60's and 70's.......Jim Wilson is the son of legendary Australian journalist Bruce Wilson; and brother of Rebecca Wilson ; Sydney personality.


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I don't see anything wrong with Caro's article at all. In fact I'd like a few more like that. As people have pointed out the Fevola incident just gave a reason to write more broadly about issues at the club. That's a fair enough link to make. If anything she didn't go hard enough and simply reiterated a few things we already knew. She's not going to get every bit of it right every time; different sources have different information and that's part and parcel of the confusion that's reigning at the club at the moment.

If the media just gloss over the club's spin and stick with the pay per view arse-licking, back page love-ins of the Hun we're in all sorts. That's the sort of crap that gets boards re-elected by grandstand drongos who wouldn't know Marc Murphy's shoulder from Jason Saddington's knee.

I want hard hitting, serious articles outlining all the crap that's going on at Carlton and I want it now.

Synbad's right - things will happen - but if we all kick and scream and deny it and shoot the messenger every time anyone wants to tell us that there's trouble in Denmark then we may get left with the current crap.

There are forces martialling who are trying to work out the best way of wresting control of the club from the incumbent incompetents who would rather hire a PR firm than a coach who knows what he's doing. Whether they go ahead sooner rather than later is still unclear but the more under the pump people like Caroline Wilson can place this administration and board (note administration and board rather than club) the sooner we'll be rid of the F@%&#!.

Keep writing Caro and keep putting it out there.

The club is currently a shambles and I want it public.


Totally agree, GWS - the successors are tactically sorting out the 'how' and 'when' rather than 'if' they'll topple the current crap that's there!!!!

The sooner the better - Smorgon and your amateurs, I'd be looking for nuclear bomb shelters to hide in, cause that's what your going to be subjected to after what's coming actually hits!!!!!

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I don't see anything wrong with Caro's article at all. In fact I'd like a few more like that. As people have pointed out the Fevola incident just gave a reason to write more broadly about issues at the club. That's a fair enough link to make. If anything she didn't go hard enough and simply reiterated a few things we already knew. She's not going to get every bit of it right every time; different sources have different information and that's part and parcel of the confusion that's reigning at the club at the moment.

If the media just gloss over the club's spin and stick with the pay per view arse-licking, back page love-ins of the Hun we're in all sorts. That's the sort of crap that gets boards re-elected by grandstand drongos who wouldn't know Marc Murphy's shoulder from Jason Saddington's knee.

I want hard hitting, serious articles outlining all the crap that's going on at Carlton and I want it now.

Synbad's right - things will happen - but if we all kick and scream and deny it and shoot the messenger every time anyone wants to tell us that there's trouble in Denmark then we may get left with the current crap.

There are forces martialling who are trying to work out the best way of wresting control of the club from the incumbent incompetents who would rather hire a PR firm than a coach who knows what he's doing. Whether they go ahead sooner rather than later is still unclear but the more under the pump people like Caroline Wilson can place this administration and board (note administration and board rather than club) the sooner we'll be rid of the F@%&#!.

Keep writing Caro and keep putting it out there.

The club is currently a shambles and I want it public.


Totally agree, GWS - the successors are tactically sorting out the 'how' and 'when' rather than 'if' they'll topple the current crap that's there!!!!

The sooner the better - Smorgon and your amateurs, I'd be looking for nuclear bomb shelters to hide in, cause that's what your going to be subjected to after what's coming actually hits!!!!!


FFS!!! We're fair game. It's natural for supporters to take umbrage when someone criticises your club _ BUT WE HAVEN'T GOT A LEG TO STAND ON.
We're a rabble and at least Caro isn't swallowing ( :shock: ) the tripe trotted out by the club. You cannot defend the indefensible. All we need now is for her to take a harder line on Den, Den.
As BV said, adding a few news words to Mictchell's job description doesn't mean we are taking player development and someone to head up the football department seriously.
The Blues season starts in a few months, when the real games will begin (rubbing hands together emoticon).

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Wangers wrote:
the successors are tactically sorting out the 'how' and 'when' rather than 'if' they'll topple the current crap that's there!!!!

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I don't see anything wrong with Caro's article at all. In fact I'd like a few more like that. As people have pointed out the Fevola incident just gave a reason to write more broadly about issues at the club. That's a fair enough link to make. If anything she didn't go hard enough and simply reiterated a few things we already knew. She's not going to get every bit of it right every time; different sources have different information and that's part and parcel of the confusion that's reigning at the club at the moment.

If the media just gloss over the club's spin and stick with the pay per view arse-licking, back page love-ins of the Hun we're in all sorts. That's the sort of crap that gets boards re-elected by grandstand drongos who wouldn't know Marc Murphy's shoulder from Jason Saddington's knee.

I want hard hitting, serious articles outlining all the crap that's going on at Carlton and I want it now.

Synbad's right - things will happen - but if we all kick and scream and deny it and shoot the messenger every time anyone wants to tell us that there's trouble in Denmark then we may get left with the current crap.

There are forces martialling who are trying to work out the best way of wresting control of the club from the incumbent incompetents who would rather hire a PR firm than a coach who knows what he's doing. Whether they go ahead sooner rather than later is still unclear but the more under the pump people like Caroline Wilson can place this administration and board (note administration and board rather than club) the sooner we'll be rid of the F@%&#!.

Keep writing Caro and keep putting it out there.

The club is currently a shambles and I want it public.


Agreed...


Agreed.



Agreed :-D


Agreed..... :-D


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Glad that's agreed then... :lol:

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Can i just say there are people dilligently making things happen behind the scenes to help make the club stronger.
I cant tell you exactly when its all goi8ng to be put together.. because the whole point of doing something massive like this is getting it right in the first place.
The people engineering this have already seen a process of slapping people together and hoping for the best.
That wont happen again.

This time we hope there will be some real longevity and a lasting legacy in what is created ...

The people on board level have run their race..
The admin people have run their race.

The MC has run its race.

Noone can tell me that for four years all of these people have led the club poorly and over summer they have all gone to school and learnt how to all of a sudden do it properly.

It just doesnt work like that.

Theyre not the right people... we need the right people to come in and do a REAL JOB turning this club around at ALL levels.

It really is a case of enough is enough
Mathieson and Valmorbida will resign in a few weeks.. That will hail the changes.

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At least Caro revealed the sneaky leaker. :lol:

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Synbad wrote:
Can i just say there are people dilligently making things happen behind the scenes to help make the club stronger.
I cant tell you exactly when its all goi8ng to be put together.. because the whole point of doing something massive like this is getting it right in the first place.
The people engineering this have already seen a process of slapping people together and hoping for the best.
That wont happen again.

This time we hope there will be some real longevity and a lasting legacy in what is created ...

The people on board level have run their race..
The admin people have run their race.

The MC has run its race.

Noone can tell me that for four years all of these people have led the club poorly and over summer they have all gone to school and learnt how to all of a sudden do it properly.

It just doesnt work like that.

Theyre not the right people... we need the right people to come in and do a REAL JOB turning this club around at ALL levels.

It really is a case of enough is enough
Mathieson and Valmorbida will resign in a few weeks.. That will hail the changes.


I wait with bated breath. Hope it's not too long...not so good at holding my breath.

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It's incredible that people are condemning Wilson for writing an article that will help build the momentum necessary to rid our club of the current clowns. It almost made me vomit when the unity tripe was splashed accross the back page of the 'Hun', as it was merely serving to gloss over the reality of the trouble we're in.

So Caroline Wilson writes negative articles about Carlton? So what? Let's face it, unless we want football journalists to write simply what is released by the club, then we'll never get to the truth.

As GWS and others have written, our club is in serious trouble, so don't let personal prejudices get in the way of a very important message.

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Cant have anyone writing negative articles about the way this club is run.......

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So Caroline Wilson writes negative articles about Carlton? So what? Let's face it, unless we want football journalists to write simply what is released by the club, then we'll never get to the truth.
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I hope the changes that Synbad has outlined happen, I really do.


But I wouldn't give Caroline Wilson one iota of credit for it.

Her's is another agenda steeped in hatred of the Carlton Football Club., based on many historical incidents passed on by her father the ex-President of the Richmond Football CLub. She is a bitch and a shrivelled prune - and further I just dont like her. There are plenty of places I can get the truth I don't need her skewed version of it. :evil:

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She is a bitch and a shrivelled prune - and further I just dont like her.


Jeez mate.....she speaks very highly of you........ :-D


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Warby wrote:
chubbyruss wrote:
Siegfried wrote:
Elwood Blues1 wrote:
GWS wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with Caro's article at all. In fact I'd like a few more like that. As people have pointed out the Fevola incident just gave a reason to write more broadly about issues at the club. That's a fair enough link to make. If anything she didn't go hard enough and simply reiterated a few things we already knew. She's not going to get every bit of it right every time; different sources have different information and that's part and parcel of the confusion that's reigning at the club at the moment.

If the media just gloss over the club's spin and stick with the pay per view arse-licking, back page love-ins of the Hun we're in all sorts. That's the sort of crap that gets boards re-elected by grandstand drongos who wouldn't know Marc Murphy's shoulder from Jason Saddington's knee.

I want hard hitting, serious articles outlining all the crap that's going on at Carlton and I want it now.

Synbad's right - things will happen - but if we all kick and scream and deny it and shoot the messenger every time anyone wants to tell us that there's trouble in Denmark then we may get left with the current crap.

There are forces martialling who are trying to work out the best way of wresting control of the club from the incumbent incompetents who would rather hire a PR firm than a coach who knows what he's doing. Whether they go ahead sooner rather than later is still unclear but the more under the pump people like Caroline Wilson can place this administration and board (note administration and board rather than club) the sooner we'll be rid of the F@%&#!.

Keep writing Caro and keep putting it out there.

The club is currently a shambles and I want it public.


Agreed...


Agreed.



Agreed :-D


Agreed..... :-D


Agreed. :wink:

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Graeme wrote:
I find it amazing that TCers can bag the club along the lines of this article everyday, but the minute it's done by someone outside the club it is an outrage. :?


You're right there. She told it like it is but because she's Caro people jump on her. I think, like most reporters, she's a parasite, but that's the way Carlton is at the moment and if nothing's done about it, then negative stories,and rightly so, will be written about us. Why are we immune.


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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
Warby wrote:
chubbyruss wrote:
Siegfried wrote:
Elwood Blues1 wrote:
GWS wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with Caro's article at all. In fact I'd like a few more like that. As people have pointed out the Fevola incident just gave a reason to write more broadly about issues at the club. That's a fair enough link to make. If anything she didn't go hard enough and simply reiterated a few things we already knew. She's not going to get every bit of it right every time; different sources have different information and that's part and parcel of the confusion that's reigning at the club at the moment.

If the media just gloss over the club's spin and stick with the pay per view arse-licking, back page love-ins of the Hun we're in all sorts. That's the sort of crap that gets boards re-elected by grandstand drongos who wouldn't know Marc Murphy's shoulder from Jason Saddington's knee.

I want hard hitting, serious articles outlining all the crap that's going on at Carlton and I want it now.

Synbad's right - things will happen - but if we all kick and scream and deny it and shoot the messenger every time anyone wants to tell us that there's trouble in Denmark then we may get left with the current crap.

There are forces martialling who are trying to work out the best way of wresting control of the club from the incumbent incompetents who would rather hire a PR firm than a coach who knows what he's doing. Whether they go ahead sooner rather than later is still unclear but the more under the pump people like Caroline Wilson can place this administration and board (note administration and board rather than club) the sooner we'll be rid of the F@%&#!.

Keep writing Caro and keep putting it out there.

The club is currently a shambles and I want it public.


Agreed...


Agreed.



Agreed :-D


Agreed..... :-D


Agreed. :wink:

If everyone else is agreeing best I not be left out.

Agreed!


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DownUnderChick wrote:
Molly wrote:
Spot on GWS, Elwood and others...

I don't want to be the one standing around with the fiddle while Rome burns.

We need scrutiny on this club, and we need to cut through some of the PR spin. Nothing wrong with what Caro wrote.


Has Caro EVER written a positive article about Carlton, EVER?

We don't need Caro lighting the blow torch on the Club, we need the members to do that.

No one is living in la la land about where the club is at, but Caro's pathological hatred of Carlton is blurring her judgement.

If you think that the powerbrokers within and outside the club don't know what's going on at MC Hammer and only hang out for Caro's little snippets of wisdom, then you are dreaming.


Agreed. If anyone thinks anything positive can come out of negatively portraying the Carlton brand in the mass media then they are deluded. This does nothing for the club.


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Cant have anyone writing negative articles about the way this club is run.......

Can't have people continually telling us change is coming and what do we hear??? What does nothing sound like?? Oh that is right, after 4 years of being down they might step in. This group has had 4 years and plenty of opportunity and what do we hear?? There is that silence again.


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