so who is caros mate?

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Funny reading back on this.

Got to love the "passionate supporter's" fads.

I wonder why Diggins was singled out, over and above all other baord members, by JohnM. Perhaps because she is a female board member? I hope not JonhM...but if not, why not question any other board member?

Why pick on her?

This is one that made me chuckle seven months ago, and reading it again makes me have the same effect now.

Waiting for posts defending her work...based upon what accusations? There have never been any!!!

Because she is not board material and neither is most of the rest of the board and thats why we make shit decisions and thats why were shit.

And thats why people are working hard behind the scenes for reform.
It doesnt mean Diggins is great... and i dont see where John M has ever said the board as a whole is dysfunctional.
To the contrary he believes in reform from the top to the bottom.
There are plenty of his posts to prove this.

But of course verbs you have just done a Michael Malouf and highlighted what you want highlighted....

And thats why youre seen as a tool...

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A board is supposed to be proactive verbs.
The problem with Lorraine and most of the board is theyre not proactive in making the club functional theyre bogged down in the nitty gritty that is not taking us forward and productive.

I think most people here believe the board in general isnt up to it..
Ms Diggins is one that has been highlighted as has Sticks . Smorgon Rose etc at different times.

Go dig them up too???

As i said.. youre being awfuly selective in what you highlight.. are you Michael Malouf???

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More dirty laundry aired.

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Number 17 in Carlton's 25 Greatest Moments.

Does anyone else find it bizarre how many public relations people some of our board members [read Diggins and Smorogon] currently have employed to look after their dealings with the media?

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Is this true? Did she individually get voted in by the members or did she arrive on the back of someone elses coat-tails?

She was elected as part of the CarltonOne ticket - in November 2002.

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Is there any particular reason the Board was not presented with the full report by Jim Watts?

I've been Secretary to a Board which oversaw a $30 million company - and when any report had been commissioned on behalf of that organisation by an independent party, then that document would be given to Board Members in full.

I'm just wondering if anyone knows why this wasn't the case? It seems an unusual departure from due dilligence structures to me.

She was part of a block vote nd not as an individual.



But hey you can never have enough art dealers around can you.

especially ones that need to hire a mouthpiece.

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I thought so, her comments sound to me like she thinks she got in because the members specifically wanted her in and that she is some kind of hero for them.. hahaha

I too am staggered that reports are filtered before they reach the boardroom.

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Probably because the executive summary and first four chapters were all about how the board is incompetant and should sack itself. All that was safe to be released was the chapter on how Murph goes alright, and the conclusion saying the club is about to start going places provided the recommendations of the first four chapters are carried out (with that last sentence blacked out of course).

I'm not sold one way or another about Diggins but am amazed at some of the posts that appear to be based on no personal knowledge but simply feed off the posts of others...it's a good thing that the majority of posters have no direct input into the club. On balance perhaps she should move on but when people are calling for valuable contributions from board members, suggesting people like Livingstone and Jo Silvagni that would have no business advantage over a Diggins (who for her faults is still a successful businesswoman in her own right) - this is a Board role after all - is absurd. Plus if we are prepared to simply accept Caro's article, we need to be asking questions of Malouf as well if parts of a crucial report are being withheld from the Board...having been involved on a couple of Boards I cannot understand how this can occur.

I am not buying in to arguments about individual board members who I do not know.

However I just have to comment on the reporting arrangements to the board. If the newspaper account is correct then CFC have some serious governance issues that need to be addressed.

I am a member of a board. If the organisation that I belong to commissioned a report into a branch of the organisation and then allowed the director of that branch to filter and report the findings to the full board then I would be demanding to see the full report. (anyone feel free to insert comment here about inmates running the asylum...)

If as a director I have some serious misgivings about the performance of a functional area of the organisation, I would urge the board to seek independent advice and if they ignored it I would then seek advice from a person with credentials in the functional area concerned. I would feel that I could not serve the interests of the members of the organisation if I felt that sufficient due diligence was not undertaken and the board was not fully informed. If the board is trying to lynch one member for doing this then it should be questioned.

Unless there is more to the situation than what has been reported then I worry about the whole governance issue.

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I'm a company director as well, and am staggered at the (alleged) reporting arrangements at board level at the CFC.

Surely not insisting on reading the entire Watts report is a fundamental breach of your responsibilities as a board member. And attempting not to provide the full report is a fundamental breach of your responsibilities as a CEO.

I shall remain depressed about the future of the Carlton Football Club until Mr. Smorgon and Mr. Malouf are given the flick.

And there I was, thinking Friday was going to be a good day...

Taking personalities out of it, this demonstrates to all how fragmented our board is.
We have board members being asked to resign, other board members wanting to get out of there and others being excluded from meetings all together.

We currently have Malouf, Smorgon and a couple of lackys controlling the club by stealth and manipulation.
This is what happens when desperate people make decisions.

Anyone who believes the best interests of our club are being addressed, think again. Factions of the board are running to the media in different directions to push their own agenda which smacks of selfishness and irrepairable division. IMO.
Just hope the damage that is done in the interim doesnt have irreversible impacts.

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Diggens was upset because page 5 was missing in the report

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