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 Post subject: Where to play them 2007
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:07 pm 
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Craig Bradley

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For what its worth.


Whitnall Deep Forward
Houlihan Forward
Fisher Back Flank
Wiggins Tagger of any description
Stevens Winger
Russell Wing
Kennedy CHF
Waite Forward if not succesful CHB
Simpson On the Ball
Lappin Back Flank
Blackwell,Bentick,Murphy,Gibbs guts
Betts Forward
Hartlett CHB
Kouta Bench with occasional bursts on the ball and plugging other holes (maybe even CHB)
Carrazzo On the ball when on the field
S O'Hailpin In defence with the option of a go in the ruck.
Bower Backline
cant be bothered with the reasons but hey this is what I think. Agree or disagree please. Obviously the way footy is played these days players can just about play every position in one game but this is where these players are best suited.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:28 pm 
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keogh wrote:
For what its worth.


Whitnall Deep Forward CHF
Houlihan Forward Wing/HF
Fisher Back Flank HF
Wiggins Tagger of any description Yep
Stevens Winger Guts
Russell Wing Yep
Kennedy CHF Yep
Waite Forward if not succesful CHB CHB
Simpson On the Ball Wing/midfield
Lappin Back Flank Yep
Blackwell,Bentick,Murphy,GIBBS guts Yep
Betts Forward Yes, but plenty of time in the midfield too
Hartlett CHB I'd give Waite first crack there, but somewhere back
Kouta Bench with occasional bursts on the ball and plugging other holes (maybe even CHB) Not a forward, and not a defender. Impact player in the midfield or an a wing
Carrazzo On the ball when on the field Yep
S O'Hailpin In defence with the option of a go in the ruck. Yep
Bower Backline Yep
cant be bothered with the reasons but hey this is what I think. Agree or disagree please. Obviously the way footy is played these days players can just about play every position in one game but this is where these players are best suited.

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Of course there will be lots of rotations with those.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:48 pm 
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keogh wrote:
Fisher Back Flank

Russell Wing

Hartlett CHB

Carrazzo On the ball when on the field


With Fisher's kicking, we can't afford to play him at half back. Turn overs coming out of defence kill teams these days.

Russell should probably play as a running defender with some time in midfield. Like Walker not a natural ball-winner yet, needs to learn from playing tight on good players.

Hartlett probably doesn't have the motor to play centre half back. More likely to get a go at full back with Livingston's delisting.

Carrazzo will need to play as a defensive small as well at times. We don't currently have a lot who can do this effectively on our list at the moment. (Here's hoping we pick up Brock O'Brien at 17 or 19.)


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:55 pm 
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Walker on ball as well.


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there are quite a few players i cant find room for in our team....

the main one that seems to be high on everyones agenda this year is wiggo.....just cant find a spot for him

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Walker on ball as well.


Definitely. Time to release walker into the midfield.

Carrazzo played a game last year (against Hawthorn?) out of a forward pocket, and did really well. Marked everything that came his way, and his timing on his leads was excellent. Let himself down badly with his kicking for goal though. Was surprised that they didn't play him there again.

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Let himself down badly with his kicking for goal though. Was surprised that they didn't play him there again.



No surprise really when you consider that one of his deliberate set shots at goal was about 20 metres out and he didn't make the distance.

But put him hard on the boundary with no visible daylight between the sticks - no problem. :wink:

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Still see a few problems with our team with no standout for the back pocket or first ruck and a general changing of the guard.

I think Wiggins may get a go in the back pocket as he probably has more pace than the other contender in Carrazzo. Both have a fierce attack on the ball ands both have problems with disposal on occasions so Wiggo's superior pace may get him the role. I'm not sure if Bentick has more pace than Wiggo and I think with Murphy etc in the midfield then Bentick feeding it out is an important part of the mix. Perhaps Jackson if he gets elevated could be a chance in the back pocket?

There are some options for either the third tall defender or CHB but doubts over the fitness of Hartwell and Saddington and Carlos still learning the role may mean Whitnall is probably the first selection. Waite is an option but has not played a lot in defence and it may be too steep a learning curve. Perhaps Kennedy and Whitnall can interchange between CHF and CHB? It may also take some of the pressure off Josh.


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Carrazo: Bullants/Bench

Might get a bit of stick for it but seriously I just don't rate him as highly as others. I think he is just about the worst kick in our team which is saying something!! :shock:

Yeah I know all the romance of working hard and getting on 2 rookie lists and establishing himself but to be frank IMO we'll be a good team when Carrazzo is nothing more than a depth player for us.



..........unless he improves his kicking dramatically.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:36 pm 
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Whitnall - Deep Forward
Houlihan - Bullants
Fisher - still not sure
Wiggins - centre/forward
Stevens - centre
Russell - Bullants
Kennedy - CHF
Waite - test in midfield & CHB
Simpson - rover
Lappin - Back Flank
Blackwell,Bentick,Murphy,GIBBS guts
Betts - Forward
Hartlett - Bullants
Kouta - Centre. Still one of the best at centre clearances
S O'Hailpin - Defense / Ruck
Bower - Backline / Wing

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bnz wrote:
there are quite a few players i cant find room for in our team....

the main one that seems to be high on everyones agenda this year is wiggo.....just cant find a spot for him

Forward flank/Wing


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:22 am 
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Ideal positions

Four-pronged tall attack
Fevola - Full Forward
Kennedy - Centre Half Forward
Fisher - Forward Pocket
Waite - Half Forward Flank/Wing
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Betts - Forward Pocket
Wiggins - Half Forward Flank


Rucks
Ackland - 1st Ruck
McLaren - 2nd Ruck

Midfielders/On-ball
Houlihan - Wing/Half Forward Flank
Stevens - Centre/On-ball
Scotland - Centre/On-ball
Walker - On-ball
Simpson - Wing/On-ball
Blackwell - Centre
Bentick - Centre (bench)
Murphy - Centre/On-ball
Gibbs - On-ball/Half Back Flank
Kouta - Centre (bench)

Backs
Whitnall - Centre Half Back (eventually moving to the Half Forward line when someone steps up to CHB)
Thornton - Full Back/Half Back Flank/Back Pocket (where necessary)
Russell - Half Back Flank
Hartlett - Full Back
Lappin - Half Back Flank
Carrazzo - Back Pocket/On-ball
Setanta O'Hailpin - Back Pocket/Half Back Flank (picking up a tall)
Bower - Back Pocket/Half Back Flank
Saddington - Half Back Flank/Centre Half Back

Potentially another 1 or 2 draft pick from this year can be added to this group as there are a decent list of potential draftees that are genuine class and could possibly slot into the mix.

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Carrazo: Bullants/Bench

Might get a bit of stick for it but seriously I just don't rate him as highly as others. I think he is just about the worst kick in our team which is saying something!! :shock:

Yeah I know all the romance of working hard and getting on 2 rookie lists and establishing himself but to be frank IMO we'll be a good team when Carrazzo is nothing more than a depth player for us.



..........unless he improves his kicking dramatically.


Agree - he'll battle to keep his spot with Murphy fit, Gibbs, Hartlett, Bower and Setanta.

We still won't have the best back 6 in the comp, but it will be better for not having Carrazzo there.


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I dont see Scotland in your list.....Surely worth a spot :?:

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Carazzo is still our best bet at back pocket. We can fool ourselves all we like but thats his best position unless his kicking and finishing dramatically improves.

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