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George Harris
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Carlton Football Club's financial woes explored

http://www.monash.edu.au/news/newsline/story/1017


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"In the first hundred years of VFL/AFL competition, Carlton was the game's most successful and financially strong club," says Associate Professor Frost.

"Yet in 2006, Carlton was obliged to seek financial assistance from the AFL to enable the club to trade legally for the rest of the season.

"For most observers, Carlton's decline is attributable to a series of decisions made by the administration of John Elliott, who was club president from 1983 to 2002," he says.

While acknowledging the negative impact of those decisions, Associate Professor Frost also argues that the club's decline coincided with a decisive shift in the economic and organisational structure of Australian Rules Football from a sport in which several leagues competed for players and revenue, to one built around a more monopolistic, nationwide competition.

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Check out the big brain at Monash. Smart man.

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George Harris wrote:
Carlton Football Club's financial woes explored

http://www.monash.edu.au/news/newsline/story/1017


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"In the first hundred years of VFL/AFL competition, Carlton was the game's most successful and financially strong club," says Associate Professor Frost.

"Yet in 2006, Carlton was obliged to seek financial assistance from the AFL to enable the club to trade legally for the rest of the season.

"For most observers, Carlton's decline is attributable to a series of decisions made by the administration of John Elliott, who was club president from 1983 to 2002," he says.

While acknowledging the negative impact of those decisions, Associate Professor Frost also argues that the club's decline coincided with a decisive shift in the economic and organisational structure of Australian Rules Football from a sport in which several leagues competed for players and revenue, to one built around a more monopolistic, nationwide competition.


So it was Jacks fault?....never would have guessed.....Frosty is a genius....

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I love this guy..........

one of my favorite professors.................!








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huh.......?















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Pffft! That guy's got nothing on Jarusa's stats. 8)
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I knew Lionel Frost, he was a Lecturer in Economic History at La Trobe Uni in the early 90's.

I have to get around to contacting him about the Blueseum one of these days.

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I'd suggest A.P. Frost is probably a member on this site... so feel free to spurn his writings.

I mean, like the overview is going to tell us something new... it's all in the fine print. :)

Club admin take note.

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I knew Lionel Frost, he was a Lecturer in Economic History at La Trobe Uni in the early 90's.

He was my lecturer in 2003. Not a fan of the man I'm afraid. Then again, many lectueres are tossers.

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and many tossers aren't lecturers 8)

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dannyboy wrote:
and many tossers write poetry 8)


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I don't know why we're joking being critical of a guy who's obviously passionate and knows what he's talking about.

I'm sure Big Jack doesn't reckon its his fault.

Good stuff to Professor Frost.

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Approppriate we are talking about Frost in Melbourne at the moment. :)

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Associate Professor - he's got a bit of a way to go yet. :P

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Can someone ring and ask him if we should take Gibbs with Pick 1 :-D

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like chopper reid on channel 10 said well congratu-fucking-lations. I nice piece of detective work there

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Just so you know, Lionel Frost has written The Old Dark Navy Blues, a great history of the CFC, which unfortunately is now out of print.

(I happen to have a new copy of it having hunted it down a few years ago).

Anyway, my point being - the guy is no bunny. If any of you get a chance, find the book in a library and check it out. And he definitely has lots of source material for the Blueseum........
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moshe25 wrote:
Just so you know, Lionel Frost has written The Old Dark Navy Blues, a great history of the CFC, which unfortunately is now out of print.

(I happen to have a new copy of it having hunted it down a few years ago).

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I've got one too.

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George Harris wrote:
Carlton Football Club's financial woes explored

http://www.monash.edu.au/news/newsline/story/1017


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"In the first hundred years of VFL/AFL competition, Carlton was the game's most successful and financially strong club," says Associate Professor Frost.

"Yet in 2006, Carlton was obliged to seek financial assistance from the AFL to enable the club to trade legally for the rest of the season.

"For most observers, Carlton's decline is attributable to a series of decisions made by the administration of John Elliott, who was club president from 1983 to 2002," he says.

While acknowledging the negative impact of those decisions, Associate Professor Frost also argues that the club's decline coincided with a decisive shift in the economic and organisational structure of Australian Rules Football from a sport in which several leagues competed for players and revenue, to one built around a more monopolistic, nationwide competition.


So proof positive it is all trhe AFL's fault!! :wink:

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Jarusa wrote:
I knew Lionel Frost, he was a Lecturer in Economic History at La Trobe Uni in the early 90's.

I have to get around to contacting him about the Blueseum one of these days.


We must have had him as a lecturer around the same time, Jarusa

A nice bloke and his book the Old Dark Navy Blues is excellent
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Lionel Frost should be treated with the utmost respect.

He wrote a brilliant book on the history of the Carlton Football Club that is (excluding Jim Main's and Russell Holmesby's book - 100 greatest players) the best thing I have read on Carlton.
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