synbad's got landlubber legs!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

*crosses fingers*

please don't be about Gibbs.... please don't be about Gibbs.... please don't be about Gibbs.......

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apparently Gibbs idolises Lance but I can't tell you this as its only a rumour

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Don't worry Essendon* ....... We still hate your guts

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by the way - i had a quick look through another game from 2006 last night.

Carlton vs West Coast.

Whitnall vs Hansen -first half. call it a draw. Whitnall got plenty of uncontested possessions back half and let Hansen run up onto the wing unchecked.

2nd half -

Whitnall - no possessions at all third quarter.

in fourth quarter and late third quarter opposed to Hunter. Whitnall won't be the first person beaten by Hunter.. but Hunter went on rampage and kicked 4 goals.

If Whitnall could be used in multiple options I would have moved him off Hunter... but alas our future captain's second half wasn't that impressive.
A bit of a fade out.. but there was no plan b with whitnall. defence or nothing.

Least of YOUR concerns??

You're kidding...right?
I mean.. when did you become THE MAN at the Carlton Footy Club.


One of the many problems with self-appointed hero's is that there are just enough gulible people who read these sites who are willing to accept that what these so-called "Gods" say.
In reality, they are just another supporter with a voice, and not a very loud one at that.

God it is becoming more and more pathetic the longer it goes. Soo damn boring.

Hmm no names mentioned and no personal attack there. Give me another warning if you must. *yawns again*

Well I had a look at one more game from 2006 - the one vs Essendon* early in the year.

So far Whitnall has played against

Melbourne - C grade opponent in Holland
West Coast - B grade opponent in Hansen...then opposed to A grade opponent in Hunter - and was beaten
Hawthorn - C grade opponent ... as mentioned before.

In the Essendon* game he played against an A-/B+ opponent in Lucas.
He clearly had the better of Lucas in this match - as one would expect of a best and fairest - he should be able to take on A grade players... however, Whitnall seems to rarely oppose A grade players in 2006.

However, in the round 18? return bout Lucas kicked 6 goals... i don't have footage of that match but i presume Whitnall was his opponent for part of that time.


Conclusion - Whitnall can take on and beat/ be a linkman etc against B and C grade footballers, but struggles against A grade opponents.This would seem to indicate that Whitnall will be our first captain in a long while who doesn't have A grade opponents on a regular basis.

I would believe Fevola and Stevens have A grade opponents on a more regular basis than Whitnall.

I could go and find 3 games that would support a conclusion of Whitnall was a AA gun. Especially if I was willing to dismiss performances that didn't match the conclusion I was looking for.

Whitnall had a mixed year. Some good games, some bad ones. Like him or don't like him, but don't try and pass off stuff like that as some sort of "objective analysis".

Gotta agree Mordan. Some people talk up some rubbish in their cause.

Sorry Mordan for trying to look at his year objectively. You are right. Whitnall was by far the best player for Carlton this year and was given all the difficult jobs in defence against A grade players such as Neitz, Rocca, Barry Hall, Brad Johnson, Matthew Pavlich, Quinten Lynch and Nick Riewoldt etc.. The matches I watched must have just been an aberration.

Fevola - in the meantime - always had to play against the opposition's worst defender.... or maybe not?

Can i just say that you are riding my coat tails???
you have nothing to say..
you have nothing to contribute..

Youre a NOBODY.. and you want to be a somebody.. so you try and be my nemesis wannabe...


Im pathetic and boring but you have nothing to contribute yourself instead of chewing off my fat....

God i love wannabes... that are really nobodies...

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A nobody trying to be a somebody ?

Well,im a nobody who is more than happy to be a nobody,but shit big fella,you have definately got a obsessive compulsive disorder when it comes to Red.So Red hits the piss in the off season,and likes to have a bit of hard earnt on the neddies.Is that really that bad ? Sounds like about ninety percent of the population.There is no doubt that a certain amount of your criticism is warranted,but hell mate,he aint killed anyone.

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Mickstar i think you misunderstood...

chyna is a nobody...

Lance is the general of our defense..

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There was nothing objective about your analysis. You found something that didn't lead to the outcome you wanted and just ignored it. Beating Lucas is somehow expected for a best and fairest winner and thus doesn't count.

If you bothered to do an objective analysis, rather than cherry picking games you like then you might have seen Whitnall beat Barry Hall as well. One of the players in your list above of players you think he should be playing on and beating.

And did you even read what I wrote? Nowhere did I say that Whitnall was by far the best player for Carlton this year. I'm not championing Whitnalls efforts this year, I'm just pointing out that there is nothing "objective" and balanced about your work there. You clearly set out to prove a point and went looking for evidence to back that up, while ignoring anything else.

Mordan,

I only have 5 matches on tape left from season 2006. In 80% of those matches he was given relatively cushy jobs against b to d grade footballers.


I welcome you to go through the games that you have on tape and prove

to me that Whitnall was given the tough jobs on the backline.




If he is given the tough jobs - can you explain why in the Hawthorn game

he was asked to mark Murphy - a player with less than 30 games

experience - while Thornton and McGrath were given the jobs on the key

forwards - Franklin and Williams?



Correct me if I am wrong - but Nicholls, Kernahan etc - real leaders of

men - weren't shielded away in cushy jobs against youngsters learning

the caper.. They played against the best of their era.



I know - as you know - that Whitnall will be made captain. It will be a shame as I want my leader to be a real leader, but I don't think this club has the balls to make the tough decisions. Whitnall is the easiest option.

If he is so good why doesn't he play against Riewoldt? Buddy Franklin?
etc..