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Would 3 mediocre ruckmen be any better?

Bryan is nothing we can't easily replace in the PSD. Certainly isn't worth giving a 2 year contract to.

Hopefully Aisake may be ready for a game by the end of next season.

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Does Michael Griffiths, Orran Stephenson or any other ready made ruck options come under serious consideration now?

You'd reckon Orran would be going flat knacker on the track once he found out Bryan was gone.

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If we use Kennedy as a ruckman :evil: :evil:


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If we use Kennedy as a ruckman :evil: :evil:


I think we will.

But this also paves the way for Setanta to make the most of the opportunity (which i think he will).

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Kennedy is not a ruckman.
Let's not abuse him.
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Another wasted pick on a ready made ruckman.....

How many wasted ruck picks is that now?

Lets just hope we learn our lesson (i say this every year) and pick up a young ruckman and develop him....NO MORE SHORT TERM FILL INS

Young Daniel Batson didn't exactly set the world on fire after being drafted in the rookie draft ahead of Pearce.


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TruBlueBrad wrote:
Would 3 mediocre ruckmen be any better?

Bryan is nothing we can't easily replace in the PSD. Certainly isn't worth giving a 2 year contract to.

Hopefully Aisake may be ready for a game by the end of next season.

Why not replace all of our ruckmen? Don't you think that somewhere down the line Gary Dempsey will be thinking that he is wasting his time? We need to build a rucking squad. It is no use getting rid of them after a year or two all of the time. Surely Stevo, Murph and co would want some consistency. I know that I would. I just hate swapping an ordinary player with another ordinary player. If we have ready replacements then great, but until we do...


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Why go after more mature ruckman? We are perfectly placed to take whatever ruckman we want aside from Leurnberger in 24 hours. Renouf is the one we should be selecting.

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mjonc wrote:
Why go after more mature ruckman? We are perfectly placed to take whatever ruckman we want aside from Leurnberger in 24 hours. Renouf is the one we should be selecting.


But is he (or another ruckman) worth pick 17 or 19, as Burgan suggests? Everything I've read on here seems to suggest that he's not worth either of those picks. I'd hate the Club to pick a ruckman with one of those picks at the expense of a better player just because we are so desperate for a ruckman.

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What a delightful irony it would be if it were St. Kilda who have got in Bryan's ear...

Last pick (probably) in the PSD is a good place to be. We can survey the remaining players, new and old, and pick for need or potential with little pressure.

Exciting...

Maybe a young ruckman will be left... Maybe a player like Keating will be overlooked and still be available... Maybe a smokey like Eddie...


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By all accounts Bear seemed lazy and was not prepared to do the work needed.

Just because he could kick, didn't mean we should fall over backwards to keep him.

One year was reasonable and he should know that.

Anything more would have been irresponsible by the club.

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phoenix johnson wrote:
Does Michael Griffiths, Orran Stephenson or any other ready made ruck options come under serious consideration now?

You'd reckon Orran would be going flat knacker on the track once he found out Bryan was gone.


Agree...I think Stephenson would be odds on to get a spot somewhere on the list...Griffiths I doubt will be available, will be taken by West Coast who have show interest in him after disposing of Gardiner.
You would think Renouf or similar would be taken at 17 or 19......

Dont agree with rucking Kennedy....he is going to be our ten year CHF and I dont want him as the next Kosi....by being knocked around in the ruck....

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I'll be surprised if Stephenson gets a gig.
Doesnt have a lot of positives besides height from what I've seen.

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Blue Vain wrote:
I'll be surprised if Stephenson gets a gig.
Doesnt have a lot of positives besides height from what I've seen.


I just thought because he is training with us and with Crosisca being his former coach he would be a front runner for a spot especially with French, Deluca and now Bryan gone.....Ackland and McLaren is a thin ruck divison.
I have not been impressed with Stephenson at VFL level but we dont seem to be showing much interest in anyone else....unless the club have a smokey ruckman in mind...

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Blue Vain wrote:
unless the club have a smokey ruckman in mind...


Karl Norman... :-D


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Elwood Blues1 wrote:
Dont agree with rucking Kennedy....he is going to be our ten year CHF and I dont want him as the next Kosi....by being knocked around in the ruck....

I agree, don't waste JK in the ruck. I see JK as being our BETTER version of Richo. A big, mobile, impact forward option. Very exciting!

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Where do you guys think Keating will end up if Coll go for Bryan?

Personally I wouldn't be too pissed off if it was Carlton...he would play a useful role for 2 years.


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Where do you guys think Keating will end up if Coll go for Bryan?

Personally I wouldn't be too pissed off if it was Carlton...he would play a useful role for 2 years.

Yeah... but I'm sure there's more affordable options for rehab equipment tester.

Talented and physical player, but his fairly shot body is now a fairly old, very shot body. I'll happily retract that if he gets a good medical from the club of course.

Aside from that, really don't know why people rubbish Kennedy in the ruck, he's 198 cms now and he spent 18 months of his junior career playing CHF.

Fair enough don't just throw him in there straight up, but if he's not making the impact we hope for at CHF, then making him part of the ruck rotation is hardly a bad idea.

The rule changes have fixed up the majority of the injury risk at the centre bounce IMO.


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CK95 wrote:
Where do you guys think Keating will end up if Coll go for Bryan?

Personally I wouldn't be too pissed off if it was Carlton...he would play a useful role for 2 years.

How's his fitness? Has he got any current injuries?

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Kennedy should never be made to play ruck. N E V E R.

Have we not watched Kossy deteriorate at a rate of knots through being made to ruck without the correct build?

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