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Hi Blue Fans,

I am a long time reader of this site and just signed up because this thread and some others frustrate me.

We have people who remain anonymous on this site and sh*t can the efforts of others. This is totally unfair. At least in the papers or on TV we know who the people are doing the attacking and the recipients of the attack then have a right of reply. On this site we must be careful and understand this and be fair to everyone.

As with Shane Healy and back to the topic, I wouldn't call him middle management. He previously was the "General Manager" of a Perth radio station and more recently the "General Manager" of 3AW. 3AW is the cash cow for Southern Cross and is the biggest radio station in Melbourne, in terms of $$$ and ratings. Hardly sounds like middle management to me.

This is similar to calling Fahour middle management because he is not the General Manager of the NAB Group, he is only the General Manager of NAB in Australia. Fahour reports to John Stewart.

Recently Shane Healy has been assigned the Special Projects manager where he is responsible for getting deals done i.e. New Business, Acquisitions, Mergers etc. Most projects he works on you wouldn't have a clue about but one was the negotiation between Southern Cross and the AFL in regard to AFL radio rights.

He is far from woeful.

Please think before you type.

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His "public speaking" bio, just for the record...

Shane Healy has walked a fascinating path to the top of the competitive radio industry in Australia. Shane has faced many challenges during his career culminating in his rise to the position of General Manager of Melbourne’s number one station.

During his career, Shane has combined his passion for sports broadcasting with a successful seventeen year period as General Manager of 6PR in Perth and then 3AW in Melbourne. 3AW is one of Australia’s most successful radio stations.

He has broadcast many high profile sporting events including Australia’s stunning win over Uruguay in the World Soccer Cup qualifier in Sydney last year and more recently, the Swimming at the 2006 Commonwealth Games in Melbourne.

Shane is a powerful orator and is able to relate to audiences at all levels through his honesty and his uniquely interesting story. He brings a dose of humility to his observations about leadership and culture and the way he has connected with high profile performers such as Rex Hunt and Derryn Hinch.

Shane has a Masters Degree in Educational Administration and a Bachelor of Education and is able to combine intellectual rigour with down-to-earth observations which give valuable insights into areas such as organisational change, leadership, the path to excellence and getting the best out of teams and individuals.

Shane is also an outstanding sales and management trainer. He possesses a positive energy that is infectious and that brings out the best in people. His communication skills and ability to connect with his audience provide an interface that allows a real inclusiveness for those involved.

Finally, Shane has built a reputation as a high quality MC. He is adept at handling conferences, business and sporting functions both formal and less formal.

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Just to anonymously nit pick, General Manager of 3AW is not CEO of Southern Cross.

This is not a judgement, just a statement of fact.


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Clayman wrote:
Hi Blue Fans,

I am a long time reader of this site and just signed up because this thread and some others frustrate me.

We have people who remain anonymous on this site and sh*t can the efforts of others. This is totally unfair. At least in the papers or on TV we know who the people are doing the attacking and the recipients of the attack then have a right of reply. On this site we must be careful and understand this and be fair to everyone.

As with Shane Healy and back to the topic, I wouldn't call him middle management. He previously was the "General Manager" of a Perth radio station and more recently the "General Manager" of 3AW. 3AW is the cash cow for Southern Cross and is the biggest radio station in Melbourne, in terms of $$$ and ratings. Hardly sounds like middle management to me.

This is similar to calling Fahour middle management because he is not the General Manager of the NAB Group, he is only the General Manager of NAB in Australia. Fahour reports to John Stewart.

Recently Shane Healy has been assigned the Special Projects manager where he is responsible for getting deals done i.e. New Business, Acquisitions, Mergers etc. Most projects he works on you wouldn't have a clue about but one was the negotiation between Southern Cross and the AFL in regard to AFL radio rights.

He is far from woeful.

Please think before you type.

All the best to you all,

Clayman


Welcome aboard, Shane :wink: , I mean Clayman :P

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If I were Shane, the response would have been a lot longer than that. :lol:

TalkingCarlton would have run out of Database space.

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He's also got a background in advertising so maybe he can get our marketing into shape.


So Greg Lee is on the board now and when Smorgan decides to leave or gets booted out he's going to suddenly introduce this absolutely amazing business and marketing plan that's going to deliver us huge profit after huge profit and give us 40k members overnight? Dream on.

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He's also got a background in advertising so maybe he can get our marketing into shape.


So Greg Lee is on the board now and when Smorgan decides to leave or gets booted out he's going to suddenly introduce this absolutely amazing business and marketing plan that's going to deliver us huge profit after huge profit and give us 40k members overnight? Dream on.



:shock: :shock: :shock: QFT....

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Headplant wrote:
Just to anonymously nit pick, General Manager of 3AW is not CEO of Southern Cross.

This is not a judgement, just a statement of fact.


Ross Lyon was assistant coach at Sydney not the coach :roll:

This is not a judgement, just a statement of fact.

Pick more nits.


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frank dardrew

you are a Carlton champion. I agree with you whole heartedly...I want substance and I want vision.

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I find it rather ironic that posters can slag Michael Malouf unmercifully but the minute anyone questions the credentials of a would be successor then they are attacking the man.Perhaps my earlier post was not as clear as it should be and apologise to those who know Healy personally I try to not attack anyone personally but Healy in my estimation is not as capable as Michael Malouf and find it objectively.

Moreover there seems to be a penchant here to think that anyone that is not the incumbent would be able to be President or CEO of our football club.Im not part of the cheer squad I want the opposition to tell me why I should prefer them to the malouf/Smorgan administration .Im not wedded to these guys but like when Collo took Black Jack on in my view he needed to articulate what was his vision for the club other than simply he was anti- Black Jack.I Want the current opposition to articulate their vision /strategy rather than simply be anti- Smorgan and Malouf. If Newton and Greg Lee cant do this because they are part of the present board surely their supporters could do so.


So in summary...don't believe the hype...and I've had gutfull of it over the last 5 years...

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:45 pm 
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Thanks Bondiblue for your kind words and Heady stop being objective it doesnt sit well in here- wOOF IGNORING YOU BECAUSE YOU LIKE HAMILL .

Clayman you arent seriously putting Shane Healy in the same league as Ahmed Fahour surely :shock:

Obviously your view and mine about what constitutes middle management and mine is a far way apart.Executive management is CEO CFO CIO or COO or the General Counsel or their equivalent he doesnt seem to qualify in any of those cases- PROJECT MANAGER and the role you describe CONNOTES middle management
What AHMED FAHOUR is and does falls absolutely under the title senior or executive management.
Have you any idea about the asset base of Southern Cross apart from the Perth and Melbourne Station-Have you any idea what these senior roles entail at a major corporate
I know he is your mate but try to be a bit objective AS AN ANALOGY GIVEN YOUR STRUGGLING WITH MY EARLIER COMMENTS he is playing in the little league Fahour and the others are playing in the AFL that is the extent of the contrast.

As for the gratuitous comment of hiding behind a key board a strange comment from someone who admits reviewing the material for some time in here but not posting instead of hiding behind the keyboard perhaps your just a voyeur 8)
Thanks for the reference to the negotiation of the radio rights with the AFL .Glad you think this was one of your mates achievements because the view in the market place is that the AFL ABSOLUTELY NAILED THE RADIO STATIONS IN THE RADIO RIGHTS DEAL.The AFL after having 7 and 10 pay over the tote odds for the TV rights used this as a pretext to inflating the price for the radio rights .Ben Buckley absolutely creamed them with his two tier system.I understand that 3AW went into negotiations desparate to keep SEN out of the negotiations and not only where they part of the negotiations AW were almost apopleptic when in consideration of getting the rights the AFL took an interest in SEN.
Kerry Packer said you only get one Allan Bond in your lifetime I suspect Ben Buckley is saying that about Shane Healy and others .
But hey he is a good bloke so that qualifies him to be the CEO of Carlton .

ps I look forward to your acerbic comments next time someone has a crack at Michael Malouf

By the way next time you post do your homework this isnt a place for rank amateurs nor is the position of CEO of Carlton- post something you know about next time and pick your targets better next time
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funny thing reputations

there sometimes so way off the mark that an individuals abilities or inabilities are very well masked.

This is particularly true in so many instances in the corporate world

Anyway I have no idea if Shane Healey is any good :roll: :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:30 am 
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frank dardew wrote:
Thanks Bondiblue for your kind words and Heady stop being objective it doesnt sit well in here- wOOF IGNORING YOU BECAUSE YOU LIKE HAMILL .



Frankie old boy this post has gone for 4 pages and I have not asked you to respond to anything. What exaclty are you ignoring?
I personally think you saw Hamill and Healy having lunch together one day. But I'll keep that to myself :wink:


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only pulling your leg 8) and being Cranky Franky :?
Just to clarify wouldnt put Healy in Hamills class at least Healy doesnt speak with forked tongue
I WAS hoping to be incognito that day Woofy hopefully you didnt see us holding hands and signing Kumbuya - we had to convince Aaron but Heals and I are of the faith :-D


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His "public speaking" bio, just for the record...

Shane Healy has walked a fascinating path to the top of the competitive radio industry in Australia. Shane has faced many challenges during his career culminating in his rise to the position of General Manager of Melbourne’s number one station.

During his career, Shane has combined his passion for sports broadcasting with a successful seventeen year period as General Manager of 6PR in Perth and then 3AW in Melbourne. 3AW is one of Australia’s most successful radio stations.

He has broadcast many high profile sporting events including Australia’s stunning win over Uruguay in the World Soccer Cup qualifier in Sydney last year and more recently, the Swimming at the 2006 Commonwealth Games in Melbourne.

Shane is a powerful orator and is able to relate to audiences at all levels through his honesty and his uniquely interesting story. He brings a dose of humility to his observations about leadership and culture and the way he has connected with high profile performers such as Rex Hunt and Derryn Hinch.

Shane has a Masters Degree in Educational Administration and a Bachelor of Education and is able to combine intellectual rigour with down-to-earth observations which give valuable insights into areas such as organisational change, leadership, the path to excellence and getting the best out of teams and individuals.

Shane is also an outstanding sales and management trainer. He possesses a positive energy that is infectious and that brings out the best in people. His communication skills and ability to connect with his audience provide an interface that allows a real inclusiveness for those involved.

Finally, Shane has built a reputation as a high quality MC. He is adept at handling conferences, business and sporting functions both formal and less formal.


Would have thought that if he was senior management he wouldn't be advertising to MC your next sportsmans night. I dont think Eddie McGuire is available for Pie nights

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No, but the speaking agency that represents Healy also has names like James Strong - current Chairman of Woolworths and former CEO of Qantas - Andrew Peacock, and Bob Mansfield - current CEO of McDonalds and former CEO of Optus.

I don't reckon those guys have addressed too many pie nights lately.

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No, but the speaking agency that represents Healy also has names like James Strong - current Chairman of Woolworths and former CEO of Qantas - Andrew Peacock, and Bob Mansfield - current CEO of McDonalds and former CEO of Optus.

I don't reckon those guys have addressed too many pie nights lately.


Do they charge the same amount for him as these others? :wink:


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Have you any idea about the asset base of Southern Cross apart from the Perth and Melbourne Station-Have you any idea what these senior roles entail at a major corporate
I know he is your mate but try to be a bit objective AS AN ANALOGY GIVEN YOUR STRUGGLING WITH MY EARLIER COMMENTS he is playing in the little league Fahour and the others are playing in the AFL that is the extent of the contrast.

As for the gratuitous comment of hiding behind a key board a strange comment from someone who admits reviewing the material for some time in here but not posting instead of hiding behind the keyboard perhaps your just a voyeur 8)
Thanks for the reference to the negotiation of the radio rights with the AFL .Glad you think this was one of your mates achievements because the view in the market place is that the AFL ABSOLUTELY NAILED THE RADIO STATIONS IN THE RADIO RIGHTS DEAL.The AFL after having 7 and 10 pay over the tote odds for the TV rights used this as a pretext to inflating the price for the radio rights .Ben Buckley absolutely creamed them with his two tier system.I understand that 3AW went into negotiations desparate to keep SEN out of the negotiations and not only where they part of the negotiations AW were almost apopleptic when in consideration of getting the rights the AFL took an interest in SEN.
Kerry Packer said you only get one Allan Bond in your lifetime I suspect Ben Buckley is saying that about Shane Healy and others .
But hey he is a good bloke so that qualifies him to be the CEO of Carlton .

ps I look forward to your acerbic comments next time someone has a crack at Michael Malouf

By the way next time you post do your homework this isnt a place for rank amateurs nor is the position of CEO of Carlton- post something you know about next time and pick your targets better next time
best regards
Frank Dardew


Hit a raw nerve Clayman did. Probably won't see him here again.

For the record Southern Cross Broadcasting have a financial interest in SEN, therefore the AFL dealing with SEN and not 3AW meant jack scheizzen. The stations were talking to each other while dealing with the AFL :wink:

We need someone who is going to bring more money. Shane's connections would improve our current situation.

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Yes and Macquarie has an interest in Southern Cross but doesnt mean that it is not directly competing with Southern Cross with the Macquarie regional radio stations .Your point might be apposite if they had a controlling interest in SEN. Still doesnt mean that 3AW were not keen on SEN one of their direct competitors getting the rights given it had not had them previously .Given Southern Cross has an interest in SEN PERHAPS THEY DIDNT LIKE THE AFL taking an interest in Sen.

Still doesnt answer the market perception that the AFL screwed the radio stations on price and just remind me who was leading the negotiations for 3AW the station that paid most for the rights 8)

Happy for Shanes mates to come on here and argue his case but lets be objective Dia and if perhaps Clayman refrained from gratuitous attacks on other posters and tried to not make a splash in areas he wasnt fully cognisant of he might have got a better reception.

I think Malouf is better than Healy and has greater expertise and skills for the job but if it is decided we need a new CEO I want to aim high -why get a statesman if you can get a Rolls Royce - I dont think objectively Shane Healy is a rolls royce -

As for a raw nerve no just want to be objectively convinced that someone in fact is a gun rather than have the press or his mates pumping up his tyres and suggesting he is something that he is not.

Its too easy to knock the incumbents in here but when the blowtorch or scrutiny is turned on the alternatives people get very precious when any serious questions or analysis are put in respect of those alternatives.


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frank dardew wrote:
Yes and Macquarie has an interest in Southern Cross but doesnt mean that it is not directly competing with Southern Cross with the Macquarie regional radio stations .Your point might be apposite if they had a controlling interest in SEN. Still doesnt mean that 3AW were not keen on SEN one of their direct competitors getting the rights given it had not had them previously .Given Southern Cross has an interest in SEN PERHAPS THEY DIDNT LIKE THE AFL taking an interest in Sen.

Still doesnt answer the market perception that the AFL screwed the radio stations on price and just remind me who was leading the negotiations for 3AW the station that paid most for the rights 8)

Happy for Shanes mates to come on here and argue his case but lets be objective Dia and if perhaps Clayman refrained from gratuitous attacks on other posters and tried to not make a splash in areas he wasnt fully cognisant of he might have got a better reception.

I think Malouf is better than Healy and has greater expertise and skills for the job but if it is decided we need a new CEO I want to aim high -why get a statesman if you can get a Rolls Royce - I dont think objectively Shane Healy is a rolls royce -

As for a raw nerve no just want to be objectively convinced that someone in fact is a gun rather than have the press or his mates pumping up his tyres and suggesting he is something that he is not.

Its too easy to knock the incumbents in here but when the blowtorch or scrutiny is turned on the alternatives people get very precious when any serious questions or analysis are put in respect of those alternatives.


Agree - the process must be exhaustive and transparent. We need to find the very best. We certainly do not have that at the moment in Malouf.


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Hit a raw nerve Clayman did. Probably won't see him here again.
For the record Souther


I am still here. Like I said I have been reading this site for a while now to keep up to date with what is happening at the club as I don't live in Melbourne. On this site, I know who the heavy weights are and who the feather weights are. I know the people who I believe are full of it and those that make a huge constribution to the site. Frank is definitely someone who makes a huge contribution to this site and I never was trying to make out that I was better than him and never intended to pick a target. I just disagreed on his opinion of Shane.

Frank I agree with most that you say. The only thing I dont agree with you is that you try and substantiate your opinion as being fact. This site mostly about opinion which is OK, but we must remember that. Some people believe Malouf is doing a great job, some say he isn't. Who is wrong? Nobody is.

This site is entertaining and I enjoy reading all discussions.

Cheers,

Clayman

P.S. Don't be fooled by the knocks that I have copped, I am still Clayman from the block.

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