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He's not worth it Sinners :wink:


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He's not worth it Sinners :wink:


Oh im just trying to put his own contributions into some kind of perspective for him.
I dont think he realises his posting worth.... if its not to say "youre not 100% accurate all the time" (because the world doesnt sit still)...there is nothing coming from him... ZILCH.. NADDA... NOTHING....

And SA Blue.. i dont write stuff for you.. you dont like what i write.. why read it??.. so you can react and post 'something'???...

Just face it... no Synbad... no SA BLUE... youre nothing without me.... just go back through your posts and see it yourself... A ZERO...!!! :wink: :lol:
(thats what happens when you live in SA... nothing to do for entertainment..)

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count Wangers into you're campaign to the media, Synbad - I WANT SMORGON GONE :evil:

I've had enough of his crap!!!

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who was it that said be careful when arguing with a fool cos people forget who the real fool is.

A large part of what makes this site great is the info and goss we get, how good is it when you get the inside word on our trades from Cazz, when you get some goss on a rival faction putting together a challenge? I know it hits me in a certain spot.

And as soon as things dont pan out 100% some of you come out all righteous with a "where is it then" "you said you were in the know" "its Friday" blah blah blah.

FFS how childish is that - did you want a contract that all things represented would be 100% accurate . God help us if one of new draftees doesnt work out, youll be diging up quotes to throw it back in peoples faces.

I for one believe that many of the posters that kindly offer info arent megalomaniacs and do so cos they love the Blues.

A lot of whats been spoken about re rival factions and such may not have worked ot exactly like many of us would have wanted, tough luck


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Ok the question i want you all to answer now is will you answer yes or no to the questions that were asked.

Would you put your hand up and say yes ive had enough of this clubs board in self preservation mode and im fed up with it.
Id like to add my name on a list that will go to the media as a protest that will hopefully educate the masses in the wider community about whats going on.

So far there is ...

Synbad
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Synbad wrote:
Ok the question i want you all to answer now is will you answer yes or no to the questions that were asked.

Would you put your hand up and say yes ive had enough of this clubs board in self preservation mode and im fed up with it.
Id like to add my name on a list that will go to the media as a protest that will hopefully educate the masses in the wider community about whats going on.

So far there is ...

Synbad
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We need to sit down and think about what outcomes we are seeking to achieve and evaluate the various strategies before embarking on a media campaign. Having said that, I am willing to throw my hat in the ring and join Synbad if this is likely to serve its purpose and destabilise Smorgon's re-election campaign.

I am not familiar with the Carlton board room machinations, however it by all accouts is starting to resemble (until recently) the Federal ALP.

Am I right to assume 10 of the 12 board members are up for election or re-election with only Sticks and Lee sitting it out? Would it also be right for me to assume that Sticks and Lee are independent of the factional bickering with Sticks having a tendancy to align himself with the President of the day?

So at the end of the day, an alternative ticket will require 7 members of its ticket or as few as 5 to gain control of the board. Without over -analysing this state of play, it does not seem to be a dificult task to achieve in the current climate.

I am sure some of the current board room members deserve to stay on. We also have on board fresh faces which despite the questionable nature their inclusion on the Carlton board, have lots to offer. This leaves us with prospective well credentialled candidates to come in and be able to influence the election of the president and inspire sufficient confidence in the Club to bring with them corporate support and private funding from wealthy backers. The win win scenario for the club could possibly be having the best performing board members from the various factions with a rival ticket having the controlling interest.

In an ideal world I would love to see the Club organising a forum and inviting financial supporters to listen to and question candidates seeking election. A more informed Carlton cummunity will in the end translate to improved governance and keeps the bastards honest.


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Synbad you make me laugh ( and before you explode and retaliate in your usual energetic manor i meant that in an endearing way)

I respect your passion for the club even if i think your evaluations of the situation and your methods of communicating are a little misguided.

The world needs more people like you, your character is paramount in having a world that constantly questions itself in this case your world is the Carlton footy club.

Your the natural politician but i suspect that even if Jesus Christ was to come down from the sky and form a new board with all his disciples as members the day would inevitably come when you would lobby for change.

Just wish you would direct your energies to good instead of evil...


Keep punching. '8)'


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Umm, I think you're dribbling a bit synbad.




Name me a professional organisation that has AGM dates changing on the whim of the president???


:lol:



Umm Try the largest organisations in the country in the whole commonwealth for that matter try umm umm umm try " Federal and State Government"':idea:'':idea:'


Cant get a larger organization than that '8)'


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Like i said... were simple folk and we dont get it!!... much easier to let things just fall in place for us to appreciate and not understand the planning aspect.. or appreciate it...



I'm not sure what everyone thinks of Synbad and personally don't care either way. I feel his passion etc for the club and while he hasn't actually posted much of substance compared to some others he's worth a laugh with his bull at the gate, I'm right everyone's wrong approach, but having said that, the post I referred to as pure dribble can't be confused as anything else.

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Is this going to be yet another instance that supporters of our once mighty club are going to take their frustrations with the Board and turn against each other?

Instead, take those frustrations along to the AGM and demand answers from them. Bitching and moaning at each other is a waste of space.

Why not think about the problems we have and form some sensible questions out of them? Get them listed in an orderly form on here, and those that go to the AGM can sound like a group of people worth dealing with, rather than a rabble to rival the Board.


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Mrs Caz wrote:
Is this going to be yet another instance that supporters of our once mighty club are going to take their frustrations with the Board and turn against each other?

Instead, take those frustrations along to the AGM and demand answers from them. Bitching and moaning at each other is a waste of space.

Why not think about the problems we have and form some sensible questions out of them? Get them listed in an orderly form on here, and those that go to the AGM can sound like a group of people worth dealing with, rather than a rabble to rival the Board.



Where else can we vent our frustration Mrs C this is about the only forum that is available to most of us. Not all of us will be able to get along to the AGM .

The major source of frustration is lack of information

Lack of information from the current board
Lack of inormation from the rival ticket

If either were to let the supporters know what their proposals were then the frustration would ease and the bitching between poster would stop.

But it doesn't help when one poster says show me something and the poster who has nothing to show rips into him

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Has the date of the AGM actually been set? If so wouldn't you think the club would post details on our website? The article I read mentioned that Smorgan is about to set the date.

Do members receive official advice on the AGM via post informing us dates etc?


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Smorgon did the dirty, no doubt. It was a dirty underhanded trick.
This is not ALP leadership ballot where people have leadership ambitions from childhood and do anything to get ahead. This is supposed to be the service of a sporting club we all love. Its all about getting the best people possible involved. That means giving them time to organise themselves and think about whether they want to commit hundreds of unpaid hours. Smorgon acted in his own interest not that of the club.

That said it is apparent that the rivals werent organised or advanced enough to mount a serious challenge. I would prefer things are done slowly and methodically anyway. The price of an EGM in June or July may be worth the price if the benefits are there.

I believe the Feb AGM will be a mess. Independents and quasi tickets and Smorgons puppets will all fight hard to get them sleves on the board.

Smorgon is clearly not a good long term option but we are stuck with him for another 12 months.

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Can't agree more that Smorgan has to go...

The most likely scenario would have to be the Pratt tickect coming in after the dirty work has been done.

I think that working through the media to raise awareness is not such a bad idea... While the Carlton faithfull are somewhat aware, they don't understand the games that are hurting our club further.

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Sydney Blue wrote:
Mrs Caz wrote:
Is this going to be yet another instance that supporters of our once mighty club are going to take their frustrations with the Board and turn against each other?

Instead, take those frustrations along to the AGM and demand answers from them. Bitching and moaning at each other is a waste of space.

Why not think about the problems we have and form some sensible questions out of them? Get them listed in an orderly form on here, and those that go to the AGM can sound like a group of people worth dealing with, rather than a rabble to rival the Board.



Where else can we vent our frustration Mrs C this is about the only forum that is available to most of us. Not all of us will be able to get along to the AGM .

The major source of frustration is lack of information

Lack of information from the current board
Lack of inormation from the rival ticket

If either were to let the supporters know what their proposals were then the frustration would ease and the bitching between poster would stop.

But it doesn't help when one poster says show me something and the poster who has nothing to show rips into him


Perhaps I didn't explain myself very well Sydney. I meant, don't take your frustrations out against each other...think about what you are complaining about and form decent reasonable questions that need to be answered. Then anyone who CAN make it to the AGM can take those questions and try and get them answered...again, hopefully in a decent and reasonable way.

As for lack of information...maybe you all have noticed this:

Smorgan to visit TC

This will be an interesting exercise...but our posters will need to ask reasonably framed questions, or Smorgan or the next president will never take us seriously.


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Synbad wrote:
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He's not worth it Sinners :wink:


Oh im just trying to put his own contributions into some kind of perspective for him.
I dont think he realises his posting worth.... if its not to say "youre not 100% accurate all the time" (because the world doesnt sit still)...there is nothing coming from him... ZILCH.. NADDA... NOTHING....

And SA Blue.. i dont write stuff for you.. you dont like what i write.. why read it??.. so you can react and post 'something'???...

Just face it... no Synbad... no SA BLUE... youre nothing without me.... just go back through your posts and see it yourself... A ZERO...!!! :wink: :lol:
(thats what happens when you live in SA... nothing to do for entertainment..)


You really believe that don't you. You really believe you hold that much worth. There are plenty of my posts here on this site that have nothing to do with you (including a POW about modern football that you had no idea on as you find it impossible to offer anything constructive), but don't get me wrong, I do enjoy stirring you up, as it is so easy to do. You enjoy abusing others, but can't take being questioned. Oh well...


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Can't agree more that Smorgan has to go...

The most likely scenario would have to be the Pratt tickect coming in after the dirty work has been done.

I think that working through the media to raise awareness is not such a bad idea... While the Carlton faithfull are somewhat aware, they don't understand the games that are hurting our club further.


there is no doubting a Pratt backed ticket will come on board but only when most of the dirty work has been done like sacking Dennis, finding a new CEO and the AFL has its money payed back to them that the Smorgon lead board asked for.

Pratt does not want his money to go to the AFL from a stupid decision made by Smorgon.

Ian Collins wanted the club to hold out from going to the AFL cause he knew this was on the cards


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