Hopefully you don't think Lance will be there for another 2 or 3 years?
I hope not. I hope this is his last year, which would mean giving him the captaincy is not on.


If we can't give it to Fev, Stevens or Skinny - then it has to be Marc Murphy. I know everyone says he is too young etc.. but many captains in the game have been made captain at age 20 or with limited game experience.


I think Keith Greig was one. Then there was Sticks - who was made captain in his second year. So too was Ern Henfry I think... or thereabouts.


Captains have to either
a) have physical presence - ala nicholls/sticks/fev.
or
b) be an exceptional player - ala marc murphy/jesaulenko/johnston

Lance may have been exceptional in 1999/2000 - but he ain't no more and he doesn't have physical presence either.

Depends what you mean by physical presense. If you're talking mass (i.e. a gut and blubber arms) on an "elite player" then Whitnall's your man.

All the criticism of Lappin is because he sets the bar very very high from consistency over many seasons - so yeah 2006 was somewhat disappointing. Whitnall's bar gets shorter and shorter (as the roof-over-the-toolshed gets larger) by the year to the point where he's congratulated, and nominated for captaincy, for not turning up to preseason training looking like Barney Gumble.

Come on, he's paid in the elite bracket for being only above average. He hardly puts in the effort you'd see from anyone else in his price range, and captaining the club would only reinforce to all the doubters that believe we reward mediocrity.

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Yes Kernahan captained us in his second year at the club but he was about 23 at the time not 20, and had also played a few seasons of footy in South Australia so he had a fair bit more experience than Murphy has. Keith Greig became North captain at about 24 or 25 so not sure about that comparison (I don't think he was captain when he won back-to-back Brownlows!). So the situations are vastly different, and the fact is that no player as young or inexperienced as Murph is currently should be made captain.

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I found this in Ken Piesse's book - The Greatest Game.

It wasn't Keith Greig...it was David Dench I was thinking of.

re young players being made captain


David Dench - 1972 - age 20 years

Haydn Bunton - age 20 years

Michael Voss - year made captain 1997 - age 21 years

Wayne Carey - 1993 - age 21 years

Colin Rice - geelong - age 21 years in 1960 when made captain.

It can be done... and we have no doubts that Murphy is an exceptional player.

I would prefer another year for him to develop, but all I am saying is if we can't look at Fevola... for various reasons, or Lappin or Stevens then the next logical is Marc Murphy.

Had any of them played one season and 13 games?

Murphy has acknowledged he's not ready to become captain, so you can count him out.

One name that would rarely be mentiond here,but who you would follow in the trenches......WIGGINS!

Not the greatest player on our books,but bleeds for the side!

Will struggle to get a game .I know there are a lot of fans out there and as said numerous times he gives his all but in the end simply makes too many mistakes and turnovers are the main reason we have won 3 spoons in the last 5 years. NO

Now the world is truly surreal- somebody suggested Wiggins as a captaincy option.

I'm going to ride my flaming giraffe. See you at half past a melted clock.

I'm not sure we want to hear about your bedroom activities.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

As for Wiggins, he's a fringe player. Only Hawthorn would be stupid enough to make a fringe player captain.

It's funny with this whole captaincy thing in the media.

They are forever pumping up Lance and now they're pumping Lappin up a bit, but I don't think I've seen one article about Nick Stevens and the captaincy. I thought he would have been the obvious choice.

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I was not necessarily suggesting he should be Captain more that he is the type of person we really should have.

Unfortunately as a Club if the best we can offer is Fevola,Lappin Whitnall it shows a true indication of where we are at as a Club.

Start the rotation policy now .

Walker, Simpson, Murphy Gibbs.

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AW for Captain...

A great young determined footballer IMO...

If not, then we need a rotation policy..Stevens, Whitnall for a year each, then pass it on to a young player who has really improved who has also showed onfield and offield leadership... which could be either Murph, Gibbs, Simpson, AW, Kennedy, Bentick

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If we are going to give the captaincy to Murph in 08, then we may as well stay with kouta for 07.

Lappin would also be an option for a one year captaincy, but Fev, Stevens, Whitnall, Simpson and even Scotland are all too young. They would be pissed if they were given the captaincy for 07 did a respectable job of it only to be ousted for someone else. Realistically anyone of these guys could do it for anywhere from 2 - 5 years, considering there age.

I say, Murph in 08 and an older bloke, i.e. Kouta or Lappin for one more year. Or maybe we could find a way to get Camporat back so he can do it for a year.

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