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That arsehole Dwayne Russell bagging CFC re Fev suspension. He says filth have done a much better job with Diadak.

Dwayne Russell is an absolute Tosser.

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Sorry I missed it.

Paul Connors said the reports that Fev was out having drinks and gambling were bananas.
He singled out Karl Langdon as a fabricator of rubbish and said they are expecting him to apologise tomorrow.
If he doesnt (Connors went on to say) legal action will be launched against Langdon.

Now it would be on the pathetic side if the people who chose to believe this story from within the club went on heresay...

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it does seem odd that the story/rumour has come from multiple differing sources.

I apologise to the Fev if the story/rumour that was mentioned to me and i subsequently relayed here after hearing langdon also spout it was false.

Synbad - i wouldnt imagine swann et al would act on hearsay ???

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it does seem odd that the story/rumour has come from multiple differing sources.

I apologise to the Fev if the story/rumour that was mentioned to me and i subsequently relayed here after hearing langdon also spout it was false.

Synbad - i wouldnt imagine swann et al would act on hearsay ???

who knows


Well that part of it is coming to a head tomorrow.
Connors was careful not comment or allow Fev to comment till now.
Langdon has been given till tomorrow to apologise or legal action is threatened.

Now.. if Langdon does come up with some evidence and refuses to apologise .. Fev is in trouble.

But if he does back down... there is going to be alot of egg on alot of faces...

.. and thats not a good thing.

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well im pretty insignificant and im happy to cop the egg on my face , ive given my apology.

i'll just take it out on my sources - bloody poker players - never trust em.

you're right though if the club has acted on anything unconfirmed we could be in for well an "interesting time" ahead.

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which is no doubt why the club haven't said he is suspended because of breaking team rules in regards to being out on the town. my gut feeling tells me the there was something in the captaincy issue. of course i am simply guessing, but a poor reaction from fev to waite getting the nod, and then a piss poor effort the game, and i reckon we just about have reason enough to see the club's actions.

by the way karl langdon was always a slimey prick. could easily see him bullshitting for his own benefit. never let the truth get in the way of a good story eh? :roll:


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langdon reckons just thursday night now

who knows what to believe

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Mark H wrote:
INCORRECT. PAGAN HAS NOT BEEN SACKED.

The press conference has nothing to do with the coach.
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INCORRECT. PAGAN HAS NOT BEEN SACKED.

The press conference has nothing to do with the coach.




Thanks for the clarification - but could you please go ahead with sacking him anyway?
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Its to do with Fev. Think he's being dropped for a week.


Can we drop the coach for a week instead?
(see above)

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Maybe Langdons trying to drive his price down further..

Fevs was probably there and Langdons just stretched it out to the max......


I can't help but love the statemant the club has made that enough mediocracy is enough...

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[I reckon Fev has actually been fantastic for us so what exactly am I blaming Pagan for? He's been the only exciting thing we've had at the club for half a decade.


Totally agree...

The problem with FEV is that we expect so much from him because in the past he has been pulling most of the forwards weight.

We rely so much on him that when he has a few bad weeks he looks like the bad guy…

He's disgruntled because he cares about the club and sees its not progressing as it should.

Besides watching the development of our Young'ns (Murphy, Walker etc) FEV has been only real shining light in the past 5 years



Its funny we signal out the player who has given a lot back to the CFC, where as players li

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on SEN earlier his manager said he was there Thursday and was drinking water.

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on SEN earlier his manager said he was there Thursday and was drinking water.



Then there's no issue case closed

I dont think a player should get in trouble if thats the case

having some innocent fun on a thursday.

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Well lets hope Fev is being disciplined for something worthwhile...

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Yeah.....like behaving like a spoiled brat on the ground.


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After having read all 26+ pages of posts on this topic a couple of things are evident.

1. All Carlton fans want to see Fev do the team thing and realize his potential.

2. We are desperate to find a scapegoat for our performance over the past few weeks. Be that the coach, the administration, the players or Fev.

Living in Denmark, I am not subject to the mass of media speculation around our players or club, but yet thanks to my friend in Darwin I get to see all CFC games on DVD a few weeks after they are played.

We all know that Fev wears his heart on his sleave. He has done this always and we know that. We can either live with that fact or say that it is not good enough and trade him. It is as simple as that. He is never going to pull his head in, he is never going to not show emotion on the field and we might as well just accept that fact.

It is that same passion that saw him run through the Collingwood huddle as a show of support for the young guys. It is that same passion that saw him take the Essendon* game by the scruff of the neck.

In nearly all the games I have seen him play this year he has done the team thing. He has run, presented constantly when double/triple/quadriple teamed.

He has been starved for opportunities due to injuries to key personnel and for the most part he has worked his arse off doing the 1%.

He attracts a large number of members and is the only Carlton player that is truly capable of turning/winning a match off his own boot.

If he wanted the captaincy as so many have suggested, of course his disappointment of not being offered it would be evident to the group. He is never going to be able to keep his emotions in check.

We are not getting killed each week because of Fev, there are many, many, many more players in our team that should come under scrutiny for their performance than Fev.

To use a medical analogy, I see Fev like a symptom of a disease. If you focus on the symptom, you will never truly diagnose the real problem.

Carlton still has a very mediocre list. From our senior players, Fev is the only one that I say makes a difference week in and week out (apologies to Nick Stevens, but I am not taking him into consideration due to injury).

The decision by the club to suspend Fev for a week indicates to me that the club is no longer prepared to tollerate his attitude, so as far as I can see, the only thing left to do now is admit that someone as colourful as Fev has no place at our club and find an appropriate trade as he WILL NEVER CHANGE - Accept it!

As for the way the club handled this, well, for many years we supporters have being calling for transperancy at the club and now we have it. Again you can't have it both ways.

As I am yet to see the Freo game I can not comment on his actions during that game, but I would hate to think that one of the leagues best footballers is traded because of a poor performance and showing his disappointment, especially if the rumours that he is carrying an injury are true.

Anyway, that's my two cents worth...


Actually read a article on Fev today. A Pyschologist said that if Fev has to abide by all these rules imposed on him, he will be more worried about doing the wrong thing then letting his emotion go in a game and get fired up to take it over.

The pyschologist also said that the only way to relieve tension in most situations is for one party to leave. So a coach with 1 year to go or a 4-5 year old franchise marketing player.

This person also said Fev would be more incline to want to go to a club/coach that said we want you, not a coach that isn't giving him an ultimatum and showing the door.

One thing is evident, Fev goes if Pagan stays. I know my choice


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Yeah.....like behaving like a spoiled brat on the ground.


Yeah a press conference ... :roll:

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Is it funny that the Collingwood and ex Collingwood CEO are both having player discipline press conferences in the same week :)

Swanny wanting a bit of publicity seeing the pies ceo is getting a lot with Didak.

So much well handled with Didak. Atleast he has a set of rules and knows what will happen if he breaks them. I still don't know what Fev did, showing emotion is basically the crime. Fev did didn't lose the game .

Swanny/DP, show Fev the door and just hope he comes back. Like l been saying all day no people skills and unprofessional. Shows the club dont really care and telling him to work it out on his own.

Pagan will be shitting himself if he doesnt walk back thru the door.

and if l hear this making a stance crap again, i'm going to go MAD.

Make a stance and sack the coach, 4 years of on bottom of the ladder is why Fev shows so much emotion!!!


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you're right

Fev is right

the club is wrong

Swanney is wrong

no one knows what they are doing

its a smokescreen

Fev is playing great

bloody umpires....


its all their fault, lets suspend them.

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I can't believe I spent a percantage of my life reading all 30 pages. As such, I have to put my two bob in.

I do not think Swann is dumb or would do this for no reason at all. Wether all the details have come out or not, only the parties involved only know. As for us speculating ... I suppose we have nothing else better to do.

I have a lot of faith in the board and Management, which I can say, looks the best it has been in 2 decades. If they beleive the decision they made was correct, I back them to the hilt. I have a history with the Fevola family through my dad and would hate to see Brendan go. In saying this, if the best scenario for Brendan and the club is to part, then I am happy for this to happen for 2 reasons. 1. The club can go forward and develop as it sees fit and 2. Brendan may flourish in another team and realise his potential.

I have always been an advocate for Brendan and also endured ridicule when I've said he can be better than LLoyd. In the last few years, he has helped me put egg on the faces of those whohave done so. For me, I am happy to sit back and see what unfolds and leave it in the hands of people who are more than capable of handling the situation. If it was in the hands of Smorgon and Co, then I would be worried. But with Pratt at the helm, I wouldn't stress as the club would need to justify the decisions. A be assured that the club will not lose and be shown to be doing the right thing.

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Lance3101 wrote:
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That arsehole Dwayne Russell bagging CFC re Fev suspension. He says filth have done a much better job with Diadak.

Dwayne Russell is an absolute Tosser.

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blueslander wrote:
After having read all 26+ pages of posts on this topic a couple of things are evident.

1. All Carlton fans want to see Fev do the team thing and realize his potential.

2. We are desperate to find a scapegoat for our performance over the past few weeks. Be that the coach, the administration, the players or Fev.

Living in Denmark, I am not subject to the mass of media speculation around our players or club, but yet thanks to my friend in Darwin I get to see all CFC games on DVD a few weeks after they are played.

We all know that Fev wears his heart on his sleave. He has done this always and we know that. We can either live with that fact or say that it is not good enough and trade him. It is as simple as that. He is never going to pull his head in, he is never going to not show emotion on the field and we might as well just accept that fact.

It is that same passion that saw him run through the Collingwood huddle as a show of support for the young guys. It is that same passion that saw him take the Essendon* game by the scruff of the neck.

In nearly all the games I have seen him play this year he has done the team thing. He has run, presented constantly when double/triple/quadriple teamed.

He has been starved for opportunities due to injuries to key personnel and for the most part he has worked his arse off doing the 1%.

He attracts a large number of members and is the only Carlton player that is truly capable of turning/winning a match off his own boot.

If he wanted the captaincy as so many have suggested, of course his disappointment of not being offered it would be evident to the group. He is never going to be able to keep his emotions in check.

We are not getting killed each week because of Fev, there are many, many, many more players in our team that should come under scrutiny for their performance than Fev.

To use a medical analogy, I see Fev like a symptom of a disease. If you focus on the symptom, you will never truly diagnose the real problem.

Carlton still has a very mediocre list. From our senior players, Fev is the only one that I say makes a difference week in and week out (apologies to Nick Stevens, but I am not taking him into consideration due to injury).

The decision by the club to suspend Fev for a week indicates to me that the club is no longer prepared to tollerate his attitude, so as far as I can see, the only thing left to do now is admit that someone as colourful as Fev has no place at our club and find an appropriate trade as he WILL NEVER CHANGE - Accept it!

As for the way the club handled this, well, for many years we supporters have being calling for transperancy at the club and now we have it. Again you can't have it both ways.

As I am yet to see the Freo game I can not comment on his actions during that game, but I would hate to think that one of the leagues best footballers is traded because of a poor performance and showing his disappointment, especially if the rumours that he is carrying an injury are true.

Anyway, that's my two cents worth...


Most valuable two cents I have seen in quite a while.

Why blame Fev when the whole side and most of all the coach are to blame?

OMG just read the views of people in this forum and its amazing how they differ to another forum (dont wanna mention the name but lets just say the initials are CSC). Congratulations to all of you who see this shite for exactly what it is , an absolute load of boloney. We are about to lose our most valuable asset thanks to a desperate coach trying to save his career.

Just a quick point.

Just say the umpire that gave away the 100 metre penalty hadnt been so zealous.

Say Fevs torpedo had gone through the sticks for a goal and had inspired a comeback in which the Blues got up over Freo. Pagan would be singing his praises, congratulating him for taking the bit between the teeth and inspiring a great comeback.

MG its a fine line in football these days. :roll:

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