Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves. If were a kid out there playing AFL without much support, I reckon you'd be defecating in your pants. Simpson has shown that he has the tools, not like other players who've shown they haven't.

Young players are known to be inconsistent, even Judd has bad games. Walker hasn't had 26 possessions since his debut, let's get rid of him.

Let's get rid of players who are new to the team, haven't played with the others for a length of time, don't know their teammates that well yet, lack the body size for AFL at this stage.

Those of you who work, I bet you made mistakes in your first month on the job. Maybe your boss should have sacked you then. He/She didn't. Why? Because they had belief in you and felt you were learning. Why don't you just bloody shut up and give them some time? If they have the tools, give them time. Some players don't have the tools, that's a different story.

Richmond supporters

What are you all on?

All you simmo fans wanted Pagan to give him a go.

Well, he got his go, and I think we've seen enough. He ain't got it.

No size, no ability, doesn't win the ball. He'll be dropped next week for the only other other guy on the same crappy level as him - number 7.

In fact, simmo makes Davies look like a Brownlow medallist.

For fun, my brother and I counted the amount of times he got in the TV screen - it was 10 times in a half for no touches (AND we've got a widescreen TV!).

To everone on this site who reckons this guy has potential, you are F@%&#! dreaming.

OFF TO THE BULLANTS AND ON TO OBSCURITY SIMMO

But you can't bag Wiggins on this site - he goes so hard.

We don't have the youngest team list we have the least experienced and the smallest bodies of the league.

You're all delusional.

Actually you are wrong - we do have the youngest team list in the competition.

Can I just run a refresher past some of Simmo baggers? Drafted at the end of 2002 at number 45, our first pick in the first year of the draft penalties. Mooted by the phantom draft to go top 20, but dropped to 45 because of concerns not over pace, skill or anything else apart from the fact that he was very skinny and therefore was AT LEAST 2 years, and probably more, away from being able to cope with regular AFL. He is now in his third year and has played 12 games. I think all you can really expect from anyone after 12 games is a few signs that they have something. I think he has shown a few signs, not consistently, but in flashes. Didn't have a great game yesterday but he's young, he's still pretty skinny and he's playing for a team down on skill and confidence and with not that much talent. Bigger picture is that we're a few years away yet, and while we battle through those few years we HAVE to play these guys, knowing that they're young and therefore inconsistent and then it's really up to you to decide what kind of supporter you want to be, one with some kind of perspective about our list and how long it will take to fix it, or one who expects skinny kids to walk into the AFL, become champions overnight, and if they don't, sack the lot of them and start again with more skinny kids, give them 12 games on the pine and then sack them. Thank god you're not in charge simonverbeek, we'd be sacking 30 players a year, most of them 21 or under and replacing them with..... what exactly? Picks 75-100 in the draft?

It's too early to make a call on Simmo, come back at the end of next year and we'll talk then.

I thought someone might throw that at me, allthestats.com shows Geelong and WCE below us in age averge ranking.

Where are your stats coming from DN ? DP comments no doubt. A little accuracy goes a long way in forums.

The faithful have rushed to the defence of our next premiership captain kade 'diesel' simpson .

This is a very strange website. It seems you can bag any of our best 5 players and get applauded for it. Examples: Fevola's undisciplined and should be traded, Campo is shit (Deano - "kade is better than campo" - get a grip sweetie), Kouta was bagged last year (pretty quiet now arent you all), Whitnall is shit (whatever).

Bottom line - bag the good players and talkingcarlton.com will make a cult out of you.
None of you realise that we're shit because our lower tier of players are not developing and are not AFL standard. This is the problem.

But you can't bag Wiggins on this site - he goes so hard
But you can't bag Sporn on this site - superstar
But you can't bag Davies on this site - he dominates the two's
But you can't bag Bannister on this site - gun

You all watch too much bullants crap which makes some of these duds look good (Longmuir looks like John Coleman when wearing the hallowed red guernsey). Newsflash - VFL form is irrelevant. Big jump people, BIG BIG jump.

And so we come to Kade Simpson. You roll out the excuses:
He's young. he's had 1 good moment in 12 games when the ball bounced the wrong way for vandenberg (YAY!). he goes great in the VFL (so would a midget on crutches). He's got a good kick (gotta get it to kick it people!).

You're all delusional.

Call a dud a "a young player who really tries has a great kick and hasn't had enough time yewt blah blah"

OR

Call a dud a dud - and be realistic about Carlton's lower tier.

Sorry for interrupting wiggoworshippers, spornservants, and simpsonlovers - GO BACK TO BAGGING CHAMPIONS - you're all great at it.

Here is the age article that I got my stats from

Insert apology here peterdeano