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Campo probably wouldn't get any more than 250k at another club, so you'd suspect he'll eventually re-sign for somewhere around that mark. See out his career at the one club, all that stuff.

Not a lot of glory in jumping ship for an extra 50k a year to see out your playing days with 38 games in another jumper.

But not before he goes fishing though.

It's a damn shame it's all come to this, but I suppose when you're sticking out your hand for Riccuito/Voss money you'd want to be in their class.

Campo's always been as skilled as hell, but I want our big money earners to be leaders of men and people who can forcibly change the course of a game.

Is there a young Voss running around in the TAC?


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Like how they shouldnt have to do weights???


Why would Ratts or Hicks need to do weights programs?


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Because they're professional athletes playing a game where strength counts?

To set an example to the skinny young guys who remained skinny year after year?


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Im sure Denis would be impressed if he saw some leadership... unfortunately there isnt as any..so Campo might as well be the nothing player at the club..... cos hes just another face in the crowd...


So who decided to make him vice captain and why?


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Like how they shouldnt have to do weights???


Why would Ratts or Hicks need to do weights programs?
They were too good to go into the weights room were they?

Does that mean Manton Beaumont,Murphy Allen and Co had leaders???(Not Denis)

BTW why did you say Hickmont???
He wasnt a problem for Denis...sorry mate a ship has one Captain not 100...

If they didnt do what was asked they either were court marshalled or forced to walk the plank.. depending on what kind of ship it was....

Still ended up being the same thing..


What you dont understand is.. it doesnt matter who they are.. when the coach says boxing its boxing.. when he says weights its weights...

You dont go to work and tell your coach what youre going to do and not do do you???

If you do i wanna come and work with you....

Well do you?????

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They did pretty well without the compulsory weights programs.


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TheGame wrote:
They did pretty well without the compulsory weights programs.


It's also a reason why most of our younger guys drafted before Pagan came in had no bulk on them whatsoever.

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Sorry my point was not to bring up this whole weights issue but the fact that Dennis Pagan isn't going to listen to anything Camporeale is going to say about who he should play on. Dennis does things his way and thats that. Not sure David Teague had any input about whether he wanted to play on Stafford the other week.


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I'm going to go one step further. Call me paranoid, crazy, hard-line, a Campo-basher what have you, I don't really care.

I don't want Camporeale at the club next year.

If he signs for less, all he'll do is sook, and still be a cancer. He'll still play the same and on the rebound it's like we have 17 men on the field. If he can't produce what we need now (leadership etc.) this year, why would he at 200K?

I've said it before, it is mere presence that is causing this problem. The younger players would be a tad in awe at him, just because the guy's played over 200 games (most of which were very good quality).

Whitnall - to a lesser extent same boat as Campo, but because he is younger he may have a chance elsewhere.

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The way I see it is that for Campo it's either a heavily reduced contract or out the door.

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I'm going to go one step further. Call me paranoid, crazy, hard-line, a Campo-basher what have you, I don't really care.

I don't want Camporeale at the club next year.

If he signs for less, all he'll do is sook, and still be a cancer. He'll still play the same and on the rebound it's like we have 17 men on the field. If he can't produce what we need now (leadership etc.) this year, why would he at 200K?

I've said it before, it is mere presence that is causing this problem. The younger players would be a tad in awe at him, just because the guy's played over 200 games (most of which were very good quality).

Whitnall - to a lesser extent same boat as Campo, but because he is younger he may have a chance elsewhere.


I think Campo can still make a contribution to this club but as you say, the question is how it will affect him attitude-wise taking such a huge pay cut. If my employer reduced my salary by >50-60% I certainly wouldn't be putting in much of an effort at work (that's if I decided to stay). Will be interesting to see how Campo takes it.

Harsh Clem but can understand where you're coming from.

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Im sure Denis would be impressed if he saw some leadership... unfortunately there isnt as any..so Campo might as well be the nothing player at the club..... cos hes just another face in the crowd...


So who decided to make him vice captain and why?


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The Game > I would think Denis would love to hear Campo volunteering for the job on Arkemanis dont you????
You mean to say Denis wants Campo doing a nothing role week in week out????

Its about leadership... Denis would love to see Campo showing some.

The question is can Campo show some leadership???

He hasnt thus far.... he hasnt done it on the field.. he hasnt done it at training either... and then you look at how were travelling...

The answer is there!!!!....

Can you imagine senior players on 650k at other clubs doing nothing roles????

Someone has to to put their hand up from time to time... why should Walker be lumped with having to blanket champions from other teams and Campo doing the drive by?

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couldn't agree more. scott camporeale should not be playing at carlton next year. campo has been a disgrace for 3 years now. when the chips were down, he went missing. blokes like ratten and kouta made him look very very good, but when he had to find his own ball, well you all know the story. i say trade him. if no-one will give us anything for him, i'd almost say let him go to the PSD and get nothing for him.he hasn't given us a thing for a while now. why should his departure be any different?


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why should Walker be lumped with having to blanket champions from other teams and Campo doing the drive by?


So he can learn how a champion plays.


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why should Walker be lumped with having to blanket champions from other teams and Campo doing the drive by?


So he can learn how a champion plays.
Week in week out a kid like that should be playing the accountable stuff while Campo collects kicks????


Campo want to be considered a gun midfielder????

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/real ... 43410.html


Learn from that bloke....

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Synbad, could you please let us know roughly how much Stevens is on?

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Stevens is on roughly 200k less than Campo is on this year...

Thats enough to feed Africa for a week....
PS... Stevens we got from another club... everyone knows you have to pay more to get players from other clubs.. especially when you have NO DRAFT PICKS.....!!!

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WWhats that got to do with our 650k plus vice captain and his lack of leadership....

Dont you want Campo to show leadership?
Arent you interested in Campo who has been set up financially and with a premiership by the CFC to give something back as a 30 year old????

And to the joker who said Campo wont be 31 next year cos he turn 31 in August... :roll: :lol: :lol:

Youre telling me his name is Scott not Scotty too right??

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thank you very much ... interesting.

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Re-signing Campo on a far lesser figure than he's currently on could create another Matthew Allan "lay down" scenario.

As someone suggested, are we better just cutting him loose?

If he plays like this when he's getting paid well (over the odds), what will he be like when he feels he's getting short changed?

It's only human nature to then not want to put in.

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