Elwood, you have identified ONE major problem.
Probably not telling anyone anything new though.

Thats rubbish swap Kouta with sticks and Campo with Bradley and we still would be getting pumped. We are crap because the players coming through are crap. Sticks and Bradley had it easy when they had guns like Kouta coming through.

I wouldn't say they had it easy because Kouta was coming through and it was more likely the other way round.Bradley and Sticks were still playing better football in their twilight years than the performances of Camporeale, Lappin and Kouta this year.

My view is that Sticks, Bradley, Williams etc made it easier for Kouta to make it as a player..
Andrew Walker doesnt have the likes of Kernahan playong or leading the team and has it harder...no leadership at all or protection..

If we had Sticks and Bradley in this team we wouldnt be getting pumped and wouldnt be on the bottom....Sticks and Fev would make a reasonable attack..dont you think....

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They did have it easy because they had more leaders like SOS, Madden, Williams, Dean etc. and the younger guys like Kouta, Ang, McKay, Sexton sh!t all over Wiggins, Sporn and Bowyer don't they. Sticks would be having a very tough time if he was playing now.

Kernahan would still be a great player and performing better than Lance given he is one of the best contested marks ever.

Yes but he wouldn't be as good as he was. He certainly wouldn't be good enough to influence the result especially since he is replacing the guy who wins it out the middle in Kouta.
This lack of leadership from our captains arguement is bullsh!t.

In my opinion in the late 90s we had heaps of leaders in bradley, SOS, Ratten, Mckay etc however when Sticks retired all these players were not genuine captain material because they only spent a short time as capatin. How long will Kouta play for? can i see him holding up a Premiership Cup... NO! He is a terrific player who is probably winning our B&F up to rd 13 however we need a long term captain who will stabilise the team and take the club into back to glory days just as Sticks did.

It starts by not just picking a Nick Stevens because he has silky skills, but looking for determined 10 yerar player who loves the CFC jumper and would not leave the club for anything eg Hird, Voss, Tredrea. By having a player like this who will keep the morale high and create a precedent for all the other players to play with high intensity and stick up for players when needed. Campo is not a leader because he waits for people to give him the ball! we need an in and under player who demands the ball and goes out because he wants the Sherrin not just because he has has been told too.

A perfect example would have been a Simon Wiggins for the reason that he would die for his team mates. For instance if Pagan told Wiggins to do something no matter the consequences he would do it to his full ability. Im not saying should put Wiggins capt because he is far from being a star but we need a player who has the same mentallity who will be on the training track first and leave last because he knows its the best for himself and more impotantly the team .

A captain like this would put the team in front of himself and not just looking for cheap kicks in the back line. Currently we do not have 1 player who will be able to do this. Once we find or develop a person like this we will start to make progress!

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Got to love the stare Down by Setanta on Llyod

We could have EJ Whitten out there instead of Kouta and we'd still be crap. Our problem is we've gone too young, not enough players between the ages of 25 and 30.

See, this is the thing. Half the people on here say we should have gone young instead of getting rejects.

The other half say we don't have anyone in the mid range, and need more experience.

Doesn't everyone see this is what the loss of draft picks was meant to do? The AFL wanted to render us useless and unable to give ourselves an easy fix. Well, it worked. We had nothing to trade with so we could only pick up rejects. And we had no early draft picks.

There is no easy fix to where we are at. We need to do it slowly and methodically. We need to work to a plan.

And most of all, we need to have patience, and not call for Pagan's head so very early in the cycle.

hey stop being so sensible, that's that's for golfers, this is football and we'll be as illogical as we please!

Off with their heads!

lets draft unused 25 year olds!

Pagan cannot coach on saturdays!

If only we played all our games at P.P. we'd be playing finals!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

We got rid of most the players in that 25-30 age group and it has come back to bite us.

Yep i miss beaumont and allan and Murphy and freeborn and Hulme - would have built a great side around them blokes.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Not build a side, help the younger guys. At the moment Wiggins and Sporn are a laughing stock, far worse than the players you mentioned.

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You can just smell that fresh Carlton arrogance coming back into the air

stop being a fence sitter james pick a damn emoticon and stick with it

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Beaumont, Allan and Murphy help the young kids?????

I must have been watching a different bunch of guys running around to some other people on this site.

They couldn't help themselves, let along the young kids we have.

Beaumont could have helped our guys perfect the art of not being able to hit the side of a barn,

Allan could have talked De Luca through his injuries

Murphy would have helped Walker play a far less acountable style of play

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Danny you just mentioned 3 names there that all played over 100 games for the Blues in a lot better side than this one.

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