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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:21 pm 
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ryan2000 wrote:
Kosi's AVG;

Kicks - 6.
Marks - 5.
H'balls - 4
Dissposals - 11
Hit-outs - 5
Goals - 1


Lance's AVG.

Kicks - 10
Marks - 6
H'Balls - 5
Dissposals - 14
Hit-outs - 3
Goals 2



Yes i know Kosi has only played 60 games but lets' take a look at how Lance was traveling at 60 games...................

Kicks - 9
Marks - 6
H'balls - 4
dissposals - 14
Hit-outs - 2
Goals - 2

I'm sorry, but if StKilda baulk at a straight swap for Lance then they can get stuffed, i'd rather keep him.

Look, no doubt Lance has been dissapointing and unfit for the past 3 years - but he's also been injured. With a build like his, it's hard to keep in shape when you've got a stuffed up knee.

With that said, YES, Lance has to keep his weight under control but i think he's been great this year apart from the fact that Dennis has played him out of posistion so much.

Kosi has yet to impress me to tell you the truth. He was in actual fact tipped to go ahead of Riewoldt in the draft for a while. But then again, GT has really not utilised his strength too much.

The only way i would accept a swap for Kosi and whitnall is if Lance wanted to go to StKilda...........otherwise nope, i'd prefer Lance.

And pick 18 SHOULD be off-limits and we can't trade our third round because of the potential f/s in Tommi.

Leigh Montagna is finding it hard to get a spot in the StKilda side and i wouldn't mind seeing him at Carlton.

Lance and a Bannister for Kosi & Montagna?

Fair deal (although Stkilda supporters may not believe it!). Bannister is clearly not happy at Carlton (and with Dennis) and Kosi cannot find a spot in the side with Riewoldt and me thinks Stkilda may find it hard to fit kosi in the cap now that DalSanto has signed and Hayes is as good as done!

However, going back to pick 18.............if they wanna trade Kosi and Goddard for Lance and pick 18 i'd be happy with that - but even GT isn't that stupid (although now that i think of it.............................. :wink: )




Like when stKilda came a knocking for Brittain...and we all went NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! hes ours!!! you cant have Wayne!!!!!! He is ours.... hugging Brittain close to our collective bosom .Right?????

Its time to let go... a cartharsis of the bullshit thats held us back for YEARS and brought us to this....!!!!

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Yeah perhaps it is time to let go, but i'm just saying that i am not sold on Kosi yet - especially if it requires a straight swap with Lance.

And going off what Ottens & Thompsons were valued at last year, Lance should be worth 2 x First round picks! Hell, Lance is in a team on the bottom of the Ladder and is performing better than both those players put together!

But me thinks that perhaps Lance and Pagan don't go together to well. If that's the case, then i will miss Lance - but lets' get something for him that's worth it and Kosi alone doesn't do it for me.


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Sedat wrote:
Perhaps you can orchestrate a 'Veale Deal' scenario to lure Kosi over. Rightly or wrongly, Jade Rawlings was perceived at the time to be an elite KPP in the AFL just coming into his prime (we know that's not the case now).


I don't know how many people truly thought this. I know on TBV we were worried that the Bulldogs might pick Nick instead. There are some very overrated KPP players in the game, Rawlings was back then, Ottens last year. Most can see it thoguh, and it always clearly becomes obvious


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ryan2000 wrote:
And going off what Ottens & Thompsons were valued at last year, Lance should be worth 2 x First round picks! Hell, Lance is in a team on the bottom of the Ladder and is performing better than both those players put together!


Problem is they were both rated before they left for some UNKNOWN reason to myself. Ottens wasn't rated by about 3 people including myself in the whole Bigfooty/TC community from memory. ASTOUNDED me


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Synbad wrote:
there is only one reason why a player rocks up to an opposition club in broad daylight and thats so he can squeeze a better contract for himself.
Kosi at Carlton is highly unlikely.. but the Aints dont have a lot of room to move .


True Synbad. However the Aints will not lose any players they do not want to lose.........sound familiar?


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Rod Waddell wrote:
Synbad wrote:
there is only one reason why a player rocks up to an opposition club in broad daylight and thats so he can squeeze a better contract for himself.
Kosi at Carlton is highly unlikely.. but the Aints dont have a lot of room to move .


True Synbad. However the Aints will not lose any players they do not want to lose.........sound familiar?


You mean never???? or at the moment???

They lost black for fiora last year....

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