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Blues2005
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:15 am 
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Umm when did I ever say we had a fantastic list Synbad? Or even a talented one? :roll:

I'm saying that there is enough talent on the list to be doing better than we are! How hard is that to understand Synbad? See! Just for you WE LACK TALENT. However, personally I don't believe that the list is as bad as you or others male out. It's not great but come on Synbad you watch the games. You go to trainings. You supposedly have sources around the club. The problem as I've said a hundred times is BEYOND A LACK OF TALENT. It's more entrenched. We play with no passion, hardness, intensity whatever word you want to use! Talent at the moment is a secondary concern Synbad!

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Blues2005 (suggest you change that name - a forgettable year) :wink:

We lack talent, leadership, hardness, passion, etc....

We are very ordinary.

If the players are not playing with passion, then this is a bi-product of the things mentioned above.

It's as simple as that. We will struggle next year, too. Why? Because young lists take time to develop.

Our recruiting strategy should encompass a combination of players that possess raw talent, leadership, hardness, passion, etc.

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Synbad wrote:
Blues2005 wrote:
Synbad's was a ridiculous comment.

Whatever spin you want to put on it this SAME list won 10 games last season, Fitzroy or St. Kilda of the 80s couldn't do that.

We have Stevens, Fevola, Houlihan, Thornton, Camporeale, Lappin, Whitnall, promising youngsters in Waite, Carrazzo, Walker, we haven't even seen Russell, Hartlett etc yet.

I don't care what anyone says the above mentioned players all have talent and ability.

Some of our players will go on to be 10 year players just like former Fitzroy players like Primus, Pike, Johnson etc have been.

As I've said in numerous threads the overriding problem at Carlton at the moment in my opinion is NOT the LIST or any perceived lack of TALENT on it. The problems run deeper than the bloody list and if you can't see that well I'm sorry but you're blind! Obviously it's not a great list of players, everyone knows that. However it goes BEYOND who's on the list and who isn't.

To suggest we're as bad a list as St. Kilda of the 80s and Fitzroy circa 1996 is laughable.


Oh really???


then how come we have won 19 games in 4 YEARS ?????

(That averages out to a priority pick each year over four years .. they give priority picks to SHIT CLUBS not TALENTED CLUBS.... :roll:

I think whats laughable is when some supporters have their heads up their own arses about where were at.

Well... guess what???

we will have another crap year like this one next year too...

you wanna know why????Cos we have heaps and heaps of talent and we won the Wizzard cup.. so that means we have a very talented list...!!!!
Talented lists win 19 games every 4 years......

Youre right we have alot of talent... were just going through a rough patch at the moment...

2005.. Lets sit around the fire,hold hands and sing 'Kumbaya'

PS.. Stevens is a very good player not a superstar...Fevola i(s a class act when we have the right players around him.. (miles away from that) Houlihan.. good player nothing more.. Thornton.. (certainly no superstar).. Camporeale.. (long in the tooth and shows nothing any average footballer running around the park doesnt show)Lappin (30 next year and age catches up with everyone)...
Waite..(Coming along nicely needs to improve his kicking and is no KPP yet)..Carrazzo (Youre kidding if you think he is a top 200 AFL player).Walker(promise/potential) Russell and Hartlett(Havent played a game so how are they even better at this stage than Axe Atkins???)

Yes we have Lance 'My body is my temple' Whitnall too..

You just proved we have a fantastic list.....heaps of absolute stars in that list you gave me...


But didn't you say to someone we would make the finals this year?! :shock:
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i dont think so

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scottopee wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Blues2005 wrote:
Synbad's was a ridiculous comment.

Whatever spin you want to put on it this SAME list won 10 games last season, Fitzroy or St. Kilda of the 80s couldn't do that.

We have Stevens, Fevola, Houlihan, Thornton, Camporeale, Lappin, Whitnall, promising youngsters in Waite, Carrazzo, Walker, we haven't even seen Russell, Hartlett etc yet.

I don't care what anyone says the above mentioned players all have talent and ability.

Some of our players will go on to be 10 year players just like former Fitzroy players like Primus, Pike, Johnson etc have been.

As I've said in numerous threads the overriding problem at Carlton at the moment in my opinion is NOT the LIST or any perceived lack of TALENT on it. The problems run deeper than the bloody list and if you can't see that well I'm sorry but you're blind! Obviously it's not a great list of players, everyone knows that. However it goes BEYOND who's on the list and who isn't.

To suggest we're as bad a list as St. Kilda of the 80s and Fitzroy circa 1996 is laughable.


Oh really???


then how come we have won 19 games in 4 YEARS ?????

(That averages out to a priority pick each year over four years .. they give priority picks to SHIT CLUBS not TALENTED CLUBS.... :roll:

I think whats laughable is when some supporters have their heads up their own arses about where were at.

Well... guess what???

we will have another crap year like this one next year too...

you wanna know why????Cos we have heaps and heaps of talent and we won the Wizzard cup.. so that means we have a very talented list...!!!!
Talented lists win 19 games every 4 years......

Youre right we have alot of talent... were just going through a rough patch at the moment...

2005.. Lets sit around the fire,hold hands and sing 'Kumbaya'

PS.. Stevens is a very good player not a superstar...Fevola i(s a class act when we have the right players around him.. (miles away from that) Houlihan.. good player nothing more.. Thornton.. (certainly no superstar).. Camporeale.. (long in the tooth and shows nothing any average footballer running around the park doesnt show)Lappin (30 next year and age catches up with everyone)...
Waite..(Coming along nicely needs to improve his kicking and is no KPP yet)..Carrazzo (Youre kidding if you think he is a top 200 AFL player).Walker(promise/potential) Russell and Hartlett(Havent played a game so how are they even better at this stage than Axe Atkins???)

Yes we have Lance 'My body is my temple' Whitnall too..

You just proved we have a fantastic list.....heaps of absolute stars in that list you gave me...


But didn't you say to someone we would make the finals this year?! :shock:


I did say that.. thats before i saw how shit our leading group is.
Plus if i were you i wouldnt follow me around at the races... youd go broke. :P

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:08 am 
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Plus if i were you i wouldnt follow me around at the races... youd go broke. :P


Why not? It's quite simple really, just find out what you're backing and back something else. Your odds have just increased dramatically. :lol:

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