The problem Denis has is we have very few A grade players.
In fact at the moment the only player resembling an A grade footballer is Fevola.
The recycled players and the kids have nothing to help them get over the line.
Its every man for himself.. and in some cases woman for herself....

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yep, synbad is right...fevola is our only a-grader at the minute

tho, Walker, Thornton & Waite will be a-graders over time.

no bloke on our list deserves to earn more than $300k next year except the Fev

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There is a quote from Pagan in the HUN today that he has kept saying we are like Richmond last year.

What is the purpose of this? Why the reference to Richmond?

probably referring to them suggesting that we have the nucleas of a good side - need a couple of good kids and a couple of good pick ups in the PSD and we can go places.

dont necessarily disagree with that opinion.

however i dont agree with the opinion that some here think our list is shit, we are a few kids and a few pick ups away from a really good team.

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Those few really good kids are the difference Prez, because if you want a competitive team you can't have any passengers.

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Perhaps Dennis is meaning about the upcoming draft and comparing to what Richmond did last year with having the priority pick and trading Ottens (Whitnall). I think they ended up with 5 picks in the top 25. They went and got 2 midfielders in Tambling (mistake) and Deledio (huge success). We need 2 midfielders also.

Thats what I took out of the Richmond comparison too, the 5 picks in the first 25. I'd now expect us to chase a free agent hard in the PSD and possibley to trade for additional picks in the Top 20

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we are a few kids and a few pickups? So Prez how many 6 players all up? 8?

I think we are 4 midfielder options (two with real pace), a CHB, a Ruckman, and another tall (forward/back) off the mark. that's a lot of players to get on the list.

Now the way I see it hopefully out of Raso, Hartlett, Russell, the Irish lads, Smith and Becker we might just cover half of them. So we need another say five good pick ups (cos they won't all work out) and then we'll have talent and depth and a chance.

But these kids are all young, must give them 3 years minimum so it'll be a long process with plenty more ups and downs.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

no doubt we need some midfielders.

IMO that is where we are lacking.

i rate our forward line and our defence - with the players we have as well as those coming though the ranks now we dont need to many additional defensive or forward players.

it is our midfield we are struggling and struggling badly - on the weekend was yet another highlight of that. not a single player with 20+ possesions.

I dont expect my forwards nor my defenders to get 20+ a game but i do expect my midfielders to get 20+ a game.

We have three at the moment - walker, stevens and french. we are in desperate need of some quality in an under (luke ball type players, will need another ruck due to french's age and hopefully simmo and russel can step up to become good wing men for us.

It is our midfield that needs the work. but our list isnt entirely crap like some would suggest. However due to the age of most of players it will take a few seasons for them to get harden bodies and if we can pick 1 or 2 good players up along the way then we will be better for it.

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Getting some of the right players around the club will bring others into the game. If we had a couple of decent in and under players then Campo, Stevens, Scotland, Houla etc would be far more effective playing outside and the delivery to Fev and Whitnall much better for it.

The backline would be under less pressure because the ball would be coming in under more pressure.

All of a sudden guys like Teague and Thornton have a chance of spoiling, gain some confidence, start to run off their man.

Second biggest thing we're lacking right now, after some Ratten/Williams type on-ballers, is CONFIDENCE, both individually and collectively.

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I think we will get half of what we need from this years draft and then have to wait and see how Russell, Smith, Becker, Blackwell, Simpson, Bentick, Betts come on next year. Ten we will know if we have the makings of a good midfield.
The talls might take longer than by the end of nest year in Raso, Setanta, Fisher and Hartlett.
Still undecided on Livingston as a key defender or as a defender on the third tall. He has made good progress and has only played under 40 games so pretty hopeful oh him.

Lets just get the best players we can from the draft this year and then evaluate where we are at the end of next year and can target what we need then.

I wanna know why Tambling was a mistake????

In my opinion he was the best of last years draftees.
I watched him play maybe six games over two years...

Better than Deledio in my opinion.

Though if you took any of the top 5 last year youd be happy...

Tambling has the killer instinct.Probably more so than any of the others in last years draft.
Huge leadership qualities and an excitement machine that will spark Richmond off a few times over the next 10 years.

dont kid yourself

Hes had a few injuries over the last 18 months..

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he may have a few injuries but he isnt Deledio.

Deledio will be in the top 5 players of the league when he matures. Tambling will not.

not saying tambling is shit - he will be more than handy as a footballer - but a super star of the game - im not sure about

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In a pre-season game Tambling was BOG, then succumbed to a series of leg injuries. Not sure how you can say with certainty that he will or wont be anything, Tambling in that game had all the poise and ballwinning ability of Wells.

Eitgher way Prez, Richmond are in for a good period of football relying on those 2 future champs.

and what did you base this on???
Was it your eagle eye over the years of surveying the young kids coming through or a guess???


Mate! for your information if someone asked me how do i rate Tambling... id say .... "a cross between Wells and Paul Kelly".... hes HARD!!!!!!... not just that but he has more leadership qualities than Deledio.
He speaks well and is very confident.
He demands the ball and has more tricks up his sleeve than just about any kid ive seen.
dont get fooled by his size and his injuries.
He played last years carnival without a preperation and carrying abit of a calf and he was stil the most exciting player out there...
Excitement and ball awareness aside... he can also lead...and does!!!

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look - im not saying he is a dud - far from it.

but deledio will be in the top 5 players of the league when he hits top form.

IMO from what i have seen - including a couple of his practise matches Tambling will be a very handy footballer - but not in the top 5 unlike Deledio.

If he was so good and better than Deledio why did he go 4th and not 1st?

and knowing a few richmond people (not supporters either) they rate deledio higher than they do tambling.

again not saying tambling is shit - they will get 10 really good years out of him, but from what ive seen and from the mouth of people i know that are involved with richmond they and i rate deledio higher.

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Prez, by that argument Massie is a better player than Tarrant!

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gee, when did this becoming TalkingSynbad?

it appears every time someone posts something that is not in agreement with synbad him and his cronnies jump up and down

where is agro and 7dom, they will be sure to join in soon

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Hello kettle meet pot….....

It's just a criticism of your logic that says that pick 1 must be better than 4. I'm sure you realise the fallacy of this argument because it's not necessarily true.

Coughlan > Sporn - and Coughlan went lower than Sporn (25 vs. 11).

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