Lappin contract problems

AGRO · **Posted:** Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:20 pm

St Fidelius wrote:

Blue Vain wrote:

If we lock this thread, will they go away?

It's a public forum and have the same rights as you to post....

Go back to SS an lentil yourself. :wink:

Synbad · **Posted:** Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:34 pm

Kosi will be signed up by the Saints this week.
St Fid, youre welcome here and i reckon youre ok.
But some of your mates over at SS are blockheads.
Every bit of bad luck that happens to your club is just karma.

phoenix johnson · **Posted:** Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:37 pm

Synbad wrote:

Kosi will be signed up by the Saints this week.
St Fid, youre welcome here and i reckon youre ok.
But some of your mates over at SS are blockheads.
Every bit of bad luck that happens to your club is just karma.

May as well have crossed him off the list after Sunday's game.

Uncontracted KPP are quickly becoming few and far between.

Oh and just on Fid, guys, he's one of the better SS members you'll come across.
Has a good eye for football and is a top bloke.
Don't give him a hard time.

AGRO · **Posted:** Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:54 pm

phoenix johnson wrote:

Oh and just on Fid, guys, he's one of the better SS members you'll come across.
Has a good eye for football and is a top bloke.
Don't give him a hard time.

Gee thats funny no one on SS speaks that highly of you. :wink:

Lace Out · **Posted:** Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:03 pm

If he is that adament on a three year contract, give it too him....

But for the same amount as a two year deal. Ala Kouta.

CrazyJoeFevola · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:07 pm **Posts:** 919

Laps will be 30 by the start of next season...
Giving him a three-year deal, in an administration still smarting from long contracts, is not prudent, its ludicrous...
I couldve perhaps understood it if he was 24-25 but at 29?
He is not a marquee player, nor is he indespensible...
I would prefer to keep him but any funny buggers from him or his management and ill happily let him go... for anything i can get.... or nothing at all if nobody bites.

Deano Supremo · **Posted:** Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:36 pm

AGRO wrote:

phoenix johnson wrote:

Oh and just on Fid, guys, he's one of the better SS members you'll come across.
Has a good eye for football and is a top bloke.
Don't give him a hard time.

Gee thats funny no one on SS speaks that highly of you. :wink:

Fiddys alright. You blokes all know my opinion of saints supporters, but Fiddy's one of the good ones.

phoenix johnson · **Posted:** Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:04 am

AGRO wrote:

phoenix johnson wrote:

Oh and just on Fid, guys, he's one of the better SS members you'll come across.
Has a good eye for football and is a top bloke.
Don't give him a hard time.

Gee thats funny no one on SS speaks that highly of you. :wink:

Couldn;t give a flying fig about what the majority of the people over there have to say about me.
Most of them are 'yes' posters and they just about never disagree with each other.

verbs · **Posted:** Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:31 am

phoenix johnson wrote:

AGRO wrote:

phoenix johnson wrote:

Oh and just on Fid, guys, he's one of the better SS members you'll come across.
Has a good eye for football and is a top bloke.
Don't give him a hard time.

Gee thats funny no one on SS speaks that highly of you. :wink:

Couldn;t give a flying fig about what the majority of the people over there have to say about me.
Most of them are 'yes' posters and they just about never disagree with each other.

"Yes" posters eh? Never disagree? What sort of crazy world is SS?

Rambo Stallone · **Posted:** Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:53 am

Let him go if he want's to do a Beaumont/Allan who isn't happy let him go, 2 year deal is good should be happy with that after his good contract he had previously.

TruBlueBrad · **Posted:** Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:39 am

phoenix johnson wrote:

Uncontracted KPP are quickly becoming few and far between.

So picking first in the PSD and having a wealth of money available may not be our saviour afterall?

I thought the PSD always had a wealth of players available.

Wow, who'd have thought.

camel · **Posted:** Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:48 am

phoenix johnson wrote:

St Fidelius wrote:

Blue Vain wrote:

If we lock this thread, will they go away?

It's a public forum and have the same rights as you to post....

Perhaps Fid you should tell that to some of the cretins over at SS.

Exactly.

I know why garth is such a big user of the :roll:

given where he comes from!

:lol:

phoenix johnson · **Posted:** Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:42 pm

TruBlueBrad wrote:

phoenix johnson wrote:

Uncontracted KPP are quickly becoming few and far between.

So picking first in the PSD and having a wealth of money available may not be our saviour afterall?

I thought the PSD always had a wealth of players available.

Wow, who'd have thought.

This seems to be a thorn in your side, Brad.
Please, let us know the other way around it...

Speakers · **Joined:** Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:19 pm **Posts:** 1105

Truth be told not that many GUN players have been taken in the PSD.

I'd be happy to get a ruck through the PSD, like how Richmond got Knobel last year.

At least that way we fill one of our many holes.

camel · **Posted:** Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:26 pm

Barney/Bryan/ADL aren't enough? Knobel is hardly that much better than what we have at present is he?

TruBlueBrad · **Posted:** Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:30 pm

There may not be another way around it, but the PSD is not the answer. To play to finish bottom to get 1st pick in the PSD is pointless. Is Trent Knobel worth finishing bottom for?

The National Draft I understand, yes 2 picks are better than one.

But the other reason we were given to finish on the bottom was for the PSD. I've asked more than once who the legitimate players were we could expect to gain from it and no one has been able to answer. We're not getting Kosi there. The fact is that we've already scooped the pool from the PSD draft once. Stevens is the best and only decent player ever taken from the PSD and likely will be the only decent uncontracted player player ever taken in the PSD.

Deano Supremo · **Posted:** Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:30 pm

camelboy wrote:

Barney/Bryan/ADL aren't enough? Knobel is hardly that much better than what we have at present is he?

When two of 'em are injured it's not enough Camel. ADL is a tall forward, not a ruckman, and Bryan is barely acceptable as number one ruckman (despite the great job he's done early, I reckon he'll be much better as a pinch hitter in the ruck, maybe floating across half back).

We only have one recognised ruckman, and are crying out for a second.

Ponkstar · **Posted:** Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:38 pm

Deano Supremo wrote:

We only have one recognised ruckman, and are crying out for a second.

I hope we cry out for much longer than one second Deano, a few hours at least!

phoenix johnson · **Posted:** Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:04 pm

TruBlueBrad wrote:

There may not be another way around it, but the PSD is not the answer. To play to finish bottom to get 1st pick in the PSD is pointless. Is Trent Knobel worth finishing bottom for?

The National Draft I understand, yes 2 picks are better than one.

But the other reason we were given to finish on the bottom was for the PSD. I've asked more than once who the legitimate players were we could expect to gain from it and no one has been able to answer. We're not getting Kosi there. The fact is that we've already scooped the pool from the PSD draft once. Stevens is the best and only decent player ever taken from the PSD and likely will be the only decent uncontracted player player ever taken in the PSD.

I don't think Synbad was saying that the PSD is the be all and end all of drafting/recruiting.

He is merely saying that along with the priority pick and the first round selection, you get a shot at picking up the best uncontracted player in the AFL.
By finishing last you are going to get the better uncontracted player, whereas if you finish say 5th last you are going to get someone like a Phil Read who really isn't much chop.

Jarusa · **Joined:** Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:00 am **Posts:** 23123

Top 5 in the PSD since 2000 (make of it what you will, not sure if it helps anyone's arguments).

Collingwood 2000 Pre-Season 1 Shane O'Bree
Fremantle 2000 Pre-Season 2 Brad Bootsma
Melbourne 2000 Pre-Season 3 James Cook
Adelaide 2000 Pre-Season 4 James Byrne
StKilda 2000 Pre-Season 5 Fred Campbell

StKilda 2001 Pre-Season 1 Brett Voss
Collingwood 2001 Pre-Season 2 Chad Rintoul
West Coast 2001 Pre-Season 3 Troy Wilson
Fremantle 2001 Pre-Season 4 Simon Eastaugh
Adelaide 2001 Pre-Season 5 Chris Ladhams

StKilda 2002 Pre-Season 1 Not utilised
Geelong 2002 Pre-Season 2 Aaron Lord
Western Bulldogs 2002 Pre-Season 3 Nathan Saunders
Collingwood 2002 Pre-Season 4 Scott Cummings
Adelaide 2002 Pre-Season 5 Trent Hentschel

StKilda 2003 Pre-Season 1 Stephen Powell
Richmond 2003 Pre-Season 2 Not utilised
Sydney 2003 Pre-Season 3 Craig Bolton
Geelong 2003 Pre-Season 4 Brent Moloney
Melbourne 2003 Pre-Season 5 Guy Rigoni

Western Bulldogs 2004 Pre-Season 1 Jade Rawlings
Carlton 2004 Pre-Season 2 Nick Stevens
Melbourne 2004 Pre-Season 3 Phil Read
Richmond 2004 Pre-Season 4 Ben Marsh
Geelong 2004 Pre-Season 5 Paul Koulouriotis

2005
1 Richmond - Trent Knobel (SK)
2 Collingwood - Blake Caracella (BL)
3 Carlton - Eddie Betts (Cal)
4 Kangaroos - Lance Picioane (Haw)
5 Fremantle - Jarred Schofield (PA)

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