Greetings Earthlings,

Wow, what a hectic couple of weeks on Majerczak-Verbeek-5. We had the boys from Wolfister Inc down and let me just say those boys know how to par...tay.


St Kilda to Carlton
1991, Pre-Season, pick 52, Paul Williams, 0 games
1994, Pre-Season, pick 19, Dean Rice, 118 games
1995, Trade, Craig Devonport, for pick 19 (which got Barry Hall), 1 game
1998, Trade, Matthew Lappin, for picks 22 53 (which got James Begley and Troy Shwarze), 137* games
2000, Trade, Sam Cranage, Aaron Hamill, 10 games

Carlton to St Kilda
1989, Pre-Season, pick 15, Brendan Lowther, 0 games
1992, Mid-Season, pick 26, Stephen Edgar, 0 games
1992, Trade, Ian Aitken, for pick 61 (which got Luke Rayner), 5 games
1993, Pre-Season, pick 16, Mark Arceri, 5 games
1998, National, pick 81, Jacob Anstey, 0 games
2000, Trade, Aaron Hamill, for Sam Cranage and pick 4 (which got Luke Livingstone), 77* games

* to the end of 2004


There have been a lot of swapsies between these clubs over the years. This should be a long thread. Carlton was well known for dumping players onto St Kilda in the eighties. Let us know what swapsies occured before the draft came into place.

I expect a full list of Carlton players who went to St Kilda. Not looking at anyone in particular.

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To Obscurity and Beyond!

ohh the humanity

Carlton to St. Kilda

Ian Muller - 1988
Greg Sharp - 1984
Alex Marcou - 1987
Spiro Kourkemelis -1987
Warren Jones - 1986
Peter McConnville - 1986
Sean Charles - 1999

Richmond to St. Kilda in the 1971 pre-season then to Carlton halfway through 1971:

Billy Barrot - 1971


There must be others but memory fails at this time - look at it later.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

would ken sheldon count?

Sadly, Jezza

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From little things, big things grow - Paul Kelly (The singer, not the Swan)

Didn't we get a Sexton brother from St Kilda?

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Richard Pratt - A Carlton legend.

ben sexton was from the dogs, dont think he played at the saints.

St Kilda to Carlton - Val Perovic the original Whoof

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Ecclesiastes 1:4, "One generation passes away, and another generation comes: but The Blues abide forever."

God we have been such idiots in the past with the draft... Our current predictment goes way way back and really has nothing to do with our draft pick being stripped..

Every club makes mistakes.

If we'd won in 1999 and Kouta hadn't done his knee in 2000 we might have two premierships from our topping up policy and no one would care.

At the the time we thought we were close, had an ageing list, with one last chance to win, we went for it, it didn't pay off, we're paying for it now.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

Brad Pearce

yep, via Brisbane

Also.... in a more obscure one... Ian Stewart? (as coach)

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Love Cricket? Love me

Rodney Galt - St. Kilda 71 - 74 then to Carlton 75 - 79.

Saw him absolutely destroy North Melbourne one day at Princes Park where he kicked 6 goals (in 1978) just after Jezza was appointed coach, the first time. Also was a bit of a photographer and took a few of the promotional photos of the "Carlton Bluebirds", had that poster on my wall for many years.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

How can we forget Jessa?


One of my favourites as a nipper....Bruce McMaster-Smith....speedy winger from the early sixties.Went to the Saints and played in the '65 GF.

Player manager Ricky Nixon.

Premiership player Neil Chandler crossed to the Saints in 1975.

Peter Fitzpatrick,premiership player in '79 crossed to them in 1981.

Mark Buckey.

Ian Aitken.

Some good gets there 7dom but Peter Fitzpatrick didn't play in our 79 flag side.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

You're right Agro....Got him confused with Peter Brown...

My apologies 7dom, I didn't pick up that Peter Brown went to St. Kilda.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Is that where they went! They said they were working from home, and working damn hard - that's why the stats were out late the last couple of weeks... right, there will be words!

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If meat is murder then yoghurt must be burglary
GO YOU BIG RED FIRE ENGINE
Move aside Kouta, Lance etc - you're holding us back... from entering the under 18s

Hey Obscure...........

does it say anywhere......."whole team" swapped.......?

what i mean is.......what if we swapped our
whole team.......the lot......!

remember at school.......(i think you guys called it......
ssschool).......when you would go with a new toy.....
like a Tonka truck.......and come home with
a spinning top......?

it'd be a complete swap.......your mother wouldn't
always be happy.......but the deal was done.....!


what's that........?


you don't.......?


oh......!



kindest regards tommi

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

STKILDA to Carlton - Loosers mentality