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He did the in and under thing at one stage and then got pinged for holding it when the 4 Saints who weren't going for the ball simply jumped on him.
Stupid interpretation.


Very stupid, wouldn't be so bad though if they were just consistent with it

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i like him as he always has the balls to give 100% tough committed footy.

i'd give him a year as well on the basis of the first half where although milne kicked some cheap receiver type goals, glenny was pretty impressive

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His first half was Boweautiful. :lol: :lol:
(Thanks to Tyrant for that one)

But seriously, couldn't really fault his efforts yesterday.
Loved his quick little handpass to set up our first goal.
The St.Kilda players around him didn't even see it coming.

Should be and will be retained.

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Bowyer is the kind of bloke you need as a 22-32 ranking. Not in the starting 22 but a good contributor in the VFL and can produce well in bursts when you have injuries.

Our VFL form suggests we have many of these guys and that's not a bad thing, we just need more top line players and hopefully some of the younger players can leap frog the Bowyers and Davies of the club and take us forward for once.

I like him, and would definately keep him!


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Bowyer tried hard and didnt over do using the ball unlike some of his teammates who kept running into trouble trying to be too fancy....there would be others I would get rid of before Bowyer...

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I would delist both Bowyer and Prenda at the end of the season- it's not worth keeping guys that that don't play a specific role in our team... admire their commitment and toughness but it ain't enough IMO.

I'd rather use their spots on our list to develop kids with potential. They seem like good blokes (and good clubmen to boot) but unfortunately they just aren't up to AFL standard.

I would keep Wiggo out of these three... at least he can play a run-with role and has speed.

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grunt and determination didnt save Hulme or Franchina

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i don't know why a lot of your hate bowyer. I think we should keep him, skills can be worked on, whereas attitude, you either have it or not.

And why wasn't Carrazo playing on Milne yesterday? who was Carrazzo playing on?


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Is not a long term player but certainly you would hope that his work ethic and endeavour is an example that the likes of Walker and Russell would emulate as opposed to the attitude of the leaders.

A friend commented to me at the game that we have only a handful of players who give their all inc Bowyer, Teague, Carazzo, Waite, Walker and probably T-Bird and Livo.
You are better off delisting someone else like Norman who doesnt give a shit whether he gets beaten or not than a player with less ability and much more heart

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Over the past few weeks has swayed me into thinking he's good as a role model for his attitude instead of skill or ability.

Most teams have a Bowyer type.

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The kids love playing around Bowyer because Glenny keeps his chin up and continues trying...

What does that say about some of our most celebrated players?

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Synbad wrote:
The kids love playing around Bowyer because Glenny keeps his chin up and continues trying...

What does that say about some of our most celebrated players?


Our celebrated players should push aside and let those 'on board' get on with getting the club back to it's rightful place - respectful, and in finals & grand finals.

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Wangers wrote:
Over the past few weeks has swayed me into thinking he's good as a role model for his attitude instead of skill or ability.

Most teams have a Bowyer type.


Keep the bloke. Must be good at training and around the club. A good influence on the younger blokes. Will not drop his head if he plays in the reserves or get carried away if he gets a few kicks in the seniors.
We need more blokes with his attitude at the club. To many millionaires with no work ethic. We can carry Fevola but no more players like that who do just enough with there potential. Yes I mean you Lance and Scott.


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I wish we had the pleasure of seeing a guy like Bowyer play on Milne circa 1985.

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Any guy playing in the seniors at this time of the season has got a leg up on those that aren't. That means that Bannister, Bentick, Clarke, Davies, Morrell, Norman, Sporn and Wiggo will be in the firing line first.


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Wouldn't mind seeing Glenny on that prick Mark Johnson in a few weeks.


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Can't get a regular game in one of the worst sides in history. Gawn!

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While I think he dropped crucial marks etc., you can't fault his ethic. He did try, although sometimes trying is not good enough, he did do the team things, he showed heart, something that some of the senior players (Camporeale excepted this week) did not show.

I would not be adverse to keeping him here for another year.

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There were only a couple of players out of the more experienced group out there that actually showed some semblance of trying, they were Teague, Bowyer and Prenderghastly. But they are limited ability wise.

Bowyer made some inexcusable mistakes, Teague is just too slow and Prenderghast, will never be a footballer.

Yet we continue to persist with the likes of these and others, just to name a few, Wiggins, Sporn etc. Players that have been in the system for 5 years, yet show no improvement.

Carrazzo, much lauded on here, will never amount to a great footballer, some of his efforts were pitiful. And when I say efforts, I talk about chasing, harrassing and throwing yourself accross someones boot in an attempt to smother.

Also Livingston, is not the future, he has no composure whatsoever and will be battered from pillar to post against most forwards. If not that, then he'll give away free kicks.


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I had good old Glenny pencilled in as one of the definate 7-8 senior listed players to be delisted at seasons end. Not so sure now.

We all know about his lack of skill but on the flipside he makes up for it with desire, courage and the example he sets for the kids.

Being in the seniors at this stage and maintaining his place for the rest of the season (assuming he maintains some semblance of form) puts the guys in the ants in a more precarious position. Messrs Morrell, Norman, Sporn, Wiggo, Davies, Bannister must be shitting bricks. I think Clarke is a gonna and Bannister looks close behind.

Expect 2 rookie promotions plus another 5 or so kids in the national draft this yr added to our 2004 kids. We need the likes of Bowyer to play that mentor role. Who else has these traits to play this role? There is no doubt his retention will benefit the development of our young guys so keep him.

At least he gives a shit!


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