Because if you're a player/club official the AFL will hit you with a charge of bringing the game into disrepute and conduct unbecoming etc etc while the media are content to sling mud at someone like Fev than ask the hard questions of the asshats at AFL house.

There are myriad questions that need to be asked but the media are too spineless to do it.
What happened to mattylloyd.com/jameshird.com?
What exactly does/did James Hird do in his role as umpires advocate or whatever the hell he was made after bagging the umps?
Why was the AFL unwilling to negotiate with the MCC on the prelim final arrangement when Carlton were in the picture but are now happy to with Collingwood?
Why was Carlton not allowed their priority pick in the 2002 draft when they were allowed to have one in 2003?
Why is Ron Evans allowed to have his finger in so many pies and why is he allowed to comment/decide on salary cap penalties when his club was one of the worst offenders?
Why is Demetriou allowed to bag a club's playing style (Swans) yet anyone who bags the AFL in any small way get's a "please explain" and threats of charges andor legal action?

The people who run the game are detached from reality, they sit in their ivory tower making decisions that affect the everyday footy fan but have no idea.

Collo and Carlton = AFL'S Bitch

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They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

now we are getting somewhere.

i dont want to see collo go - but gee i think he has to be a little more active in things such as this.

The duke and Wojee pointed out some very interesting points - some ive been saying for some time myself.

The lack of action with respect to anything involving the AFL and the CFC is most concerning.

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Got to love the stare Down by Setanta on Llyod

Prez, you don't understand politics if you think making a stand is the only, or most efficient way of getting things done.

Let them kick us while we are down, 'cause I'm gonna lay into 'em when we are back on top.

And we will be.

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So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time
A garden to nurture and protect

#DopeThenStash

Leadership of a club starts in the board room. The board need to show the coaches they'll go 20 rounds if they have to for them.

The coaches need to show the players they will support them at the tribunal where possible, and the leader group need to stand up and bust their arse for the younger group.

If these things don't start happening soon there won't be success for us to stick up anyone. It all starts and stops with Collo and so far he's shown sweet FA.

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Cracking the shits helps no one.

Shooting off your mouth helps no one.

Making threats helps no one.

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So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time
A garden to nurture and protect

#DopeThenStash

Why does lying down and taking it help anyone?

Who says they are?

Just because there is no outward presentation doesn't mean there is no action.

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So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time
A garden to nurture and protect

#DopeThenStash

Methinks some posters are used to the bombastic response Elliot used to give to anything like this. Obviously they're forgetting how well that turned out for us.

Yeah, true wojee.

Whats the old saying, you catch more flies with honey?

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So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time
A garden to nurture and protect

#DopeThenStash

We've been so successful with those flies lately

Instances like these make me sick.

I really think its far overdue for an independent organisation to be set up to be a watchdog on AFL Headquarters and their actions. Its just ridiculous how much the AFL can get away with and without anyone watching over their shoulder they will continue to do as they please....

God NO! no-one wants that again. I used to shudder every time Jack opened his tobacco infested gob. I just haven't seen any signs in nearly 3 years of Collo that suggest we can defend ourselves against these turkeys(appologies to the turkey species). We can stand our ground with-out being arrogant and crude.

Remember Deisel's 9 weeks - we took them to court and forced the AFL into introducing an appeals system? That has benefited the entire comp in one way or another.

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We knew what the penalties would be and we continued to cheat.
Essendon* copped a ban from 2 national drafts and so did Melbourne.
The fact that we were so bad to be entitled to a PP is incidental.

The precedent was already set.
Whinging about it does nothing. As unpalatable as it sounds, we got what we deserved.

We'll learn nothing from our mistakes if we keep blaming everyone else for them.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Ummmm.........

doesn't honey attract bees..........?

i don't want to get stung again......!


kindest regards tommi

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

what utter crap

politics has nothing to do with this.

but before we go off our heads we need to understand as yet nothing has happened.

however, i couldnt disagree more, you may let one slide, even two slide in the field of politics, but you dont consistently get kicked in the guys without even making a murmour.

this is time and time again we seemed to be getting the shaft and waiting to do something until you get back to the top is utter crap - you are never going to get to the top unless you do something about it.

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Got to love the stare Down by Setanta on Llyod

I assume this refers to my post.
Yes we cheated and were penalised. Yes Essendon* cheated and were penalised.
Essendon* have basically gotten away with cheating after we were done and the AFL promised a crackdown with their website scam. Where is the media scrutiny of that? What happened to the websites?
I was referring more to the lack of media scrutiny on these things than whinging about being caught and penalised. Every 2nd article about Carlton refers back to our loss of draft picks, but every 2nd article about Essendon* does not refer back to their website scam.

i hate eddie mchins more than most.

but credit where credit is due

he took collingwood who where in a very similar position to what we find ourselves in at the moment and what did he do.

he didnt wait, he was on the front foot the minute he walked in the club and stood up for the filth every single time his club was mentioned and has built the collingwood football club into a powerhouse once again depsite their lack of on-field success.

is our president and our board as pro-active as the filths?

not even remotely.

they only way to get up from the bottom is to drag yourself up, no one else is going to do it.

I get the impression that some of you think, that if we start to play finals we are going to have some sort of power over the AFL.

i will give you the hot tip now, unless we have a board that is prepared to stick up for the club, winning the flag 3 years in a row isnt going to mean jack (no pun intended )

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Got to love the stare Down by Setanta on Llyod

I hope you dont feel unimportant Wojee but no, it doesnt refer to your post at all.

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I revel in my insignificance