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http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/articles/2005/07/18/1121538917242.html
Fev has admitted he lied about Longmuir biting him and he is a bellend! :evil:


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JuzzCarlton wrote:
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/articles/2005/07/18/1121538917242.html
Fev has admitted he lied about Longmuir biting him and he is a bellend! :evil:


Sorry but why would Fev leave himself open to that much scrutiny?

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I don't know why Fev is so up and down, and he must drive Denis nuts worrying about whether he'll stand up each week.Caroline Wilson was right in saying it is an indictment on the club's position that he is the face of the club. :evil:

If Fev's football doesn't progress next year,what picks would we get in a great draft as opposed to this year's draft?
For everyone who says we should lose to gain early picks,shouldn't the club trade a problem player if they can gain two gun youngsters as opposed to one? I don't think Fev would have as much value next year and his career could go either way. :?


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Fev can't be traded this year- Heffernan rule.


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Fev can't be traded this year- Heffernan rule.

That's fair to both to the club and player,but if an irrepairable relationship develops between coach and player,etc, what happens? :?

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Whitnall, Camporeale and Lappin are costing the Blues an estimated $1.5 million annually

That's ridiculous and they deserve the door or a pay cut if that's the correct figure.


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Read the article and mike's points really make a lot of sense. This club really needs a clean out & a fresh start rebuilding the list the right way via the draft. An interesting point to cdonsider is that since 2001 only 8 players still remain from our playing list that year. Most of the other clubs have an average retention rate of 18-24 players. This highlights that our poor drafting stems way before "Black Friday". Interestingly 2001 was also the year that St Kilda/Geelong and West Coast started their playing list rebuilding phase so expect at least 4-5 years of development before we are in a position to challenge for a premiership.

PS: Not impressed that a player that we have just signed up on a 3 year $500,000 p/a salary is partaking in a radio show organised wedding as a grooms man would have thought he should pull his head in for a while and concentrate on kicking a few goals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Fev can be traded of he wants to be traded and the club agrees.

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The club has signed Fev for 3 more just to make sure we are in a position to trade him and get something for him. I think the club is not sure if he will actually be here for 3 more years.

He is a petulant immature tool at the moment. I'm sick of people saying well he does this and that for charity. That's great Fev but concentrate on what you get paid to do as well.

This latest biting false allegation is an embarrassment to this club (another one!!!!)


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BlueWorld wrote:
Fev can't be traded this year- Heffernan rule.
No such rule.


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Is there anything in that article that we didn't already know...geez talk about Eric Pearce with the late news.

Good enough reason to keep them though, who wants little mikey coming out in 3 months saying 'I told you they'd get rid of Campo, Whitnall and Lappin'

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jezzarules wrote:
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Fev can't be traded this year- Heffernan rule.
No such rule.


Yes there is, what game are you watching?

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Mike's hardly gone out on a ledge with that story - sure he's on the money, but I'd like to see him dissect the Port Adelaide list to analyse why they've gone backwards at warp speed.
But maybe that's too hard for football's leading analyst.

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Is Mike Sheahan Captain Obvious?



mmm, makes you wonder ...

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Wild Blue Yonder wrote:
Is Mike Sheahan Captain Obvious?



mmm, makes you wonder ...


Told you there was a mole! :wink:

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He might be Captain obvious to some but at least he tells it like it is and a few carlton footballers under the spotlight might get the message a bit louder that the gravy train has stopped and its time for a few of them to get off or get used to travelling economy instead of first class....

Sheahan is right and I hope Ian Collins sticks to his guns and doesnt cave in....

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I agree with what he has to say elwood - just pretty damn obvious that's all.

Maybe the pressure will help bring some sense to trio de la lost souls.

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Wild Blue Yonder wrote:
I agree with what he has to say elwood - just pretty damn obvious that's all.

Maybe the pressure will help bring some sense to trio de la lost souls.


I think Ian Collins wrote the article for him, been saying thats exactly what we'll do for months now.

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Stevens is still held in high esteem by other clubs. They may be willing to give up a first round (x2?) pick for him. I fear that in two years time we will be talking about Stevens in the way we do Campo right now and by then he will be worth nothing. He may be injured a tthe momnet but his body language tells you he is not interested. Is he worth the money he is getting? Probably not. HE accumulates possessions but how damaging are they? I expect my gun midfielder to be able to kick a few goals. Stevens does not. In fact his kicking for goal on the run is poor. He misses too many easy shots.

Don't get me wrong as I think he is a GOOD player. But not elite and not worth the money he is getting (same goes for a lot of players at the club right now!). Other clubs may still think he is though. SO he HAS TRADE VALUE.

Its also suggested around the traps that he enjoys the nightlife a little too much for my liking, especailly one paid so highly. ANother sign that he is not enjoying his football at the moment...

I don't want to lose quality players but I also don't want to get a year or two down the track be thinking "dejavu, this is like Campo all over again".Big difference is that we haven't "grown up" with him like we have Campo/Whitnall so the emotional attachment is not there.

Trade him him will raise a lot of eyebrows but I reckon that it would be a winner for us. WE effecetively got him for nothing and maybe, just maybe there is a club out there a midfielder short of being competitive in Septmeber who is willing to offer up a first and second round draft pick..or mayeb even two first rounders...

As for making him captian? I agree with ELwood. I want someone to lead the troops into battle and I don't think Stevens commands that sort of respect.

Good player. But not as good as some may believe. If there are rumbling he wants out then I won't be upset to see him go. Good luck to him though...


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De-list half of our experienced players, trade the rest....blah, blah, blah.

We've been through it all before and guess what......it's not gonna happen.

Kouta to retire, Campo, Lappin, Hoops, Lance and now Stevens to be traded?? That leaves our most experienced player Barny on 107 games (those 6 pplayers equate to 1126 games of experience).

Followed by Fev and Scotland - who would want to be part of a team that gets pumped for 4 more years. 4 years would get Fev to about 180 games - and even then, that really doesn't fill me with confidence as leadership material.

There are also suggestions to remove a bunch of re-cycled players as well (which may be the only option). So who are your leaders?? C'mon guys, let's not waste too much time on crazy scenarios that'll never eventuate. :roll:

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For all Campo's bad points at least he appears to have a sense of reality:
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