Reserving seats and cash paying opposition supporters make up the gate. The Freo game was never going to get much of either.

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And merchandise sales on the day adds to the take....

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That's too hard for people to understand Prez. Please elaborate.

The Game is spot on. Wouldn't make any difference if no memebrs turned up, or all 33k, we've already paid our money. At Optus we would have had 12k, almost all would have already paid their money, and we would need to pay out overheads to keep the ground up to standard as a public venue. No-one makes money agaisnt Freeo unless they are having a big year. If Freeo were down with us then we would have got a few more. Really Malouf is being misleading suggesting if all members turned up it would effect the bottom line. Evry member needs to drag a mate or two along who pays at the gate for us to make dough out of these games.

if that is the case why do they want members?

wouldnt they be better off having everyone pay at the gates?

see - that logic i cant understand.

if you had lets say cartlon v collingwood getting an attendance of 60k and both had 30k each in members turn up and not a single general admission could get in the club would only make money on the 30k collingwood supporters?

sounds like a case of double dipping to me.

The want us to have memberships - but then they want to have the maximum amount of people buying tickets at the gate?

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Could someone please explain the economics of maintaining and improving an entire stadium (Optus Oval) for the sake of four low-attendance matches a year?

Last week break even at the G was only 18K.

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I was listening at the information evenings . We had a peppercorn lease at OO, largely a fixed cost as our training venue anyway, all the match day costs were direct instead of supplying margin to TD/G middlemen.

The Geelong model looks better and better, play Freo, Port, Crows, Weagles at Skilled Stadium and the rest in the city. They don't seem to be suffering from the television exposure everyone seems to think we would automatically receive from becoming Collo's tenant. Jeez - even Carl v Coll cannot get free to air coverage. Dan Murphys must be thrilled.

We've had a shitload more FTA this year than the last 2....

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look - the whole process is [REDACTED] at the moment.

being rewarded for losing

being hung out to dry for trying to better the club (which is what the CFC did by going ahead with the redevelopment of OO - Geelong are praised for doing exactly the same as we did years ago)

there is so much Conflict of Interest at the moment running around the AFL that it is beyond a joke.

What needs to happen to save the game from the spiral of crap that is plumetting into is this.

Every person on the current AFL board be sacked.

Anyone that has anything to do with any contracts that involve anything to do with anything involving the AFL should be instantly dismissed as not being able to work on the board and appointment fully independant people that dont have any COI onto the board.

Until that happens the shit that we face is going to continue.

How the @#$%&! can Collo be on the board of the CFC and be the CEO of TD - to many issues.

How can Evans be the CEO of Spotless and have a position of Power in the AFL?

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Really? How much? How much is prime time? And of the choice cuts at the G instead of OO (ie Freo, Weagles, Port, Ravens) how much more exposure do you reckon we got than if those games had been at OO?

you know what - the fact that pies v blues isnt getting shown is proof to one of my arguments about FTA. I wonder if they will change their minds considering Port and shit as well and that that game is of no relevance either now.

The TV will show those teams that are performing well. nothing more, nothing less.

Carlton - a traditional high attendance and tv viewing drawing team winning 10 games and winning the wizzer would be reason for the TV stations to show more games, hence why we have had more games on FTA thus far this year.

We were shit on 02 - meant little TV in 03
We were shit in 03 - means little TV exposure on 04
We were good in 04 - means more TV exposure in 05
We were shit in 05 - means little TV exposure in 06

The only benefit of the draw this year over last year is that we will play in one extra friday night game - i would hardly call that a FTA Coverage fantastic improvment but wouldnt be at all surprised if we see less of us next year if we dont improve.

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Carlton also played the same game at TD last year and got an even bigger crowd when our home ground was still Optus Oval

Bottom line is this... you get bigger crowd with the move in comparison to not moving.
Optus oval would have cost us a fortune to keep up to standard when you consider it was a crap standard by modern day standards.
People cant let go of the past can they????

Like Linus and his security blanket we want to walk around with old grounds and old players because we had some good times with them...


Forget about the past glories.. look to the next one and how will we can achieve it?

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He has got a bit of cheek this Mr Malouf asking the fans to pay back Carlton. I think the fans have stood by pretty well over the last 4 years and put up with a lot from this board -2 wooden spoons?? - loss of home ground - massive fines - loss of draft picks - delisting 31 players 19 wins out of 82 games. I think it might be time the Administrators - Players and Coaches start repaying the fans . I know my two kids are old enough to know that they dont want to follow a side that is continually shit and they now follow the Swans and Saints and they dont even have to go to school and cop it from their friends like they do in Melbourne . Keep up the performaces that we have been seeing lately and I bet they won't be the only kids supporting other sides. The 16000 that turned up to the G on the weekend is only the beginning .

Start winning Carlton - Before we do become Fitzroy

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Synbad you know aswell as everyone that the side has tanked. this leaves a bitter taste in everones mouth regardless of who we get out of it. The fans are showing with their feet and not turning up. Thats the after effect. So we might lose to win and ultimately end up losing

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Why is it only certain people see the whole picture.
Every point a winner.

Unfortunately the only pictures you see Surrey are on your mobile phone...and Ronald McDonald colour in book..

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Gee that was well put. Nice Work

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