Mine is:
Premierships - wooden spoons = success factor

Carlton:
16 -1 = 15

St Kilda
1 - 26 = -25



Officially barracking for 15th spot this year.

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Agreed.

It was the one thing we could say when Essendon* supporters claimed they had as many premierships as us.

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

But like all things the wheel turns..

Now we cant claim that..

There is alot of things we cant claim anymore....

Out of interest killpies you started a thread and didnt answer it.

What is your solution ????

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I stated what I want a few times Synbad much to your disgust. I don't want anymore spoons...period. 15th I can live with, if we can get the PP all the better. I don't believe the difference between 1 and 3 vs 2 and 4 is going to be the difference between premierships and no premierships.

The way we are heading we might as well be StKilda or Richmond, ie thinking draft picks are the sole holy grail and turning on our own. You've been around this longer than me I'm sure but it takes a shit load more than draft picks to win flags. How many have StKilda won in the last few years(apart from a pre season one, which we have too).

One of the things I love about this club is it always had pride.

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Ronald Reagan

Yeah ok you dont want spoons..
But how do you become succesful???
Are ypu saying you can come second last and be succesful????

Whats your plan for success???

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My strategy is a little radical and may take you a bit by surprise, but here goes:

Tank Games = Get Picks = improve team = win games = flag

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cloning Murphy - shit it'd be a nightmare though at the end of the process you discovered SHIT we've cloned the wrong Murphy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

You can always argue that we have won 16 Grand Finals. Compared to Essendon*'s 14.

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Working alone. At the coalface. Scott's gone for lunch! Said he would be back in 30 mins.

This is killpies formula to measure success...not achieve it.

Achieving success

Obtaining the right mix of players while maintaining the right culture around the football club.

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

1. An honest, hardworking, futuristic board and committee.

2. An honest, hardworking, futuristic football department.

3. TALENTED, committed, professional playing personal.

Flags are the only measure

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If you are wise you'll listen to me

My formula?

Don't rely just on the draft.

Be willing to trade too. (not first round picks ...unless it is something great)

Trades are good - eg

Teague and McGrath. They both have weaknesses- but they have still been good trades for us. Both were important in the wizzer cup victory.

need speed and big bodies. We want to play a collision/damage game of football. Need Bryan and French cleaning up a few opponents.

Synbad this thread wasn't about plans but mine would read somewhat similiarly to everyone elses on here, just want to do it without tanking, winning spoons or crucifying individual players for the sake of it.
Was merely interested in how people measure the success of a club.

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Get rid of the whole match committee including Pagan and start again. The current MC have failed us and brought shame to Carlton.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

And who would you replace the current Match Committee with TheGame? And I don't just want a name for a coach, I want you to name your ideal MC if you reckon the current one should be sacked.

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Based on how we have been playing latley..............................First thing would be to GROW SOME %$&#ING BALLS! Thats including you Dennis!

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He can start by turfing out Campo.....and droppeing Kouta yeah ryan???

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First things first????????????? What the hell is Droppeing?

Secondly...........Kouta is one of the few people at the club that i believe can hold his head high come seasons end!

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Win

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Shame Game? How so? By what losing? That happened before this Baord? A spoon - sorry before this board. Cheating? Sorry before this board. So How shame Game?

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