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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:04 am 
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http://www.theage.com.au/realfooty/news/afl/carlton-makes-bid-for-koschitzke/2005/07/20/1121539036343.html
I think I hear the salary cap stretching at St Kilda, and we'll offer you pick 19 and Karl Norman for Kosi.
Any other good offers we can present to the Saints?
Whitnall for Kosi or nothing?

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Pagan said the new signings would form the basis for the club's future. "Contrary to some opinions we think that some of our young players are really growing and taking sizeable leaps forward."Walker, selected at No. 2 by the Blues in the 2003 draft, was given a two-year deal worth just under $200,000 a year, while Waite signed a new three-year contract worth more than $700,000. Livingston, who was selected at No. 4 in the 2000 draft but has been hampered by injury, was given a one-year deal to rebuild his career.


Livingston was re-signed but for only 1 year not 2! :?


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Ummmm............

this is a good thing.......isnt it........?

i think it's good........!

yup........i barrack for the side that says....this is
a good thing......!


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Even if Kosi stays they have blown their TPP wide open.. they wernt banking on Kosi playing this well and having his worth upped by that much.....

Its great to hear the fuppers squirm... as a matter of fact they cant get anywhere near Kosis minimum... im sure Kosi will probably take even less than hes asking them for but he is miles away from what theyre offering......but rest assured.. if they had it they would pay it...

Something is going to give ...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:01 am 
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Synbad wrote:
Something is going to give ...


And if something's going to give, here's hoping we're the one's getting... :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:45 am 
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JuzzCarlton wrote:
http://www.theage.com.au/realfooty/news/afl/carlton-makes-bid-for-koschitzke/2005/07/20/1121539036343.html
I think I hear the salary cap stretching at St Kilda, and we'll offer you pick 19 and Karl Norman for Kosi.
Any other good offers we can present to the Saints?
Whitnall for Kosi or nothing?

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Pagan said the new signings would form the basis for the club's future. "Contrary to some opinions we think that some of our young players are really growing and taking sizeable leaps forward."Walker, selected at No. 2 by the Blues in the 2003 draft, was given a two-year deal worth just under $200,000 a year, while Waite signed a new three-year contract worth more than $700,000. Livingston, who was selected at No. 4 in the 2000 draft but has been hampered by injury, was given a one-year deal to rebuild his career.



Livingston was re-signed but for only 1 year not 2! :?


Clem and verbs marke this URL down so that in three years time you can use it to discuss Walker's and Waite's worth to the club.

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Although I am not getting my hopes up as St Kilda is a protected AFL species...

let's hope Kozi can see how Greg Williams's career improved once he came to the Blues.

I know this sounds cornny.......but I have been thinking recently about the legacy that Bob Chitty, Jack Wrout and Bert Deacon - all those great players of the 1940's - left at this club. We owe it to them and to all the others that have worn the Carlton colours to keep striving to make this club better. We are all part of a legacy and we have to take ownership of the club.

Good on you Ian Collins.


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Young talent is a must at least we can build a team around him. Although it is a risk to pay big money for an injury prone kid its a risk we need to take. Altough it might not happen im still excited :lol:


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We need a bit of luck but its good to see the club chasing quality..Kosi is the type of player who we need for a variety of reasons ..I would offer him the captains job...and give him a longer term deal than what Collo is giving everyone else. To get quality into the club we may need to be more flexible with contract length...its goes against my ideal world of only having players on 2-3 years contract max but with real quality you have to offer something better than average to land them...

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For blokes like Walker Waite Fev to have a chance of being in a super side a player of Kosis ilk is a must.
He is offered a longer contract because you have to make it very attractive for a player like that to come.
Dont worry what anonymouse thinks.. he doesnt know what he is talking about.....

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Gee I hope so!!!!!!!! :P :P

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Carlton full-forward Brendan Fevola was yesterday fined $5000, suspended for 12 months, for comments on the AFL Tribunal.


Fev wont play for a year!!!!???????????????????????

























































:roll: Yeah, I know! :lol:

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The old Carlton would have had him signed up by now. We hardly ever missed out on the man we wanted. Not sure the new Carlton will get the deal done. :cry: I hope I'm wrong.


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SurreyBlue wrote:
The old Carlton would have had him signed up by now. We hardly ever missed out on the man we wanted. Not sure the new Carlton will get the deal done. :cry: I hope I'm wrong.



Surrey youre a Gary Malerkey!!!!....

How can you prove what the old Carlton would have done and whats the new Carlton old Carlton ???

You mean the olden days where you could buy players????

But Surrey that system hasnt been in place for over a decade... get with the times!!!! :lol:

Then you expect me to treat you like you have a brain.

The chances are we wont get Kosi... but the board is doing everything they can to snag him.
It isnt easy to get a player to leave a premiership threat ( they are a premiership threat and have players like Kosi cos they drafted them with early picks cos they were shit like us)... If we stay at the bottom as long as other clubs have we too will get more champions....

No short cuts.
Kosi is just another piece in the puzzle.

If we cant taKe him we have to grow our own Kosi...

Thats how the world turns these days...
Kind of like my stomach when your posts pop up....

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SurreyBlue wrote:
The old Carlton would have had him signed up by now. We hardly ever missed out on the man we wanted. Not sure the new Carlton will get the deal done. :cry: I hope I'm wrong.


You never cease to amaze Surrey.THE OLD CARLTON WAS WHAT GOT US INTO THIS MESS!

As for signing him up by now?

Just how do you propose we do this?

He is still on a contract!

Aside from that there are league rules!


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Surrey heard you can do that in the NRL.....same applies with every sport doesnt it???
Manly got Orford or whatever his name is...

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SurreyBlue wrote:
We hardly ever missed out on the man we wanted.


I repeat.


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SurreyBlue wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
We hardly ever missed out on the man we wanted.


I repeat.


Whats that?

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The chances of picking up kosi are slim.
But this signals to out of contract players that Carlton is in the market. It will force clubs to sign their stars. If we can drive some prices up, TPP of other clubs will be tight.
If you shake the tree hard enough, apples will fall somewhere.

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camelboy wrote:
JuzzCarlton wrote:
http://www.theage.com.au/realfooty/news/afl/carlton-makes-bid-for-koschitzke/2005/07/20/1121539036343.html
I think I hear the salary cap stretching at St Kilda, and we'll offer you pick 19 and Karl Norman for Kosi.
Any other good offers we can present to the Saints?
Whitnall for Kosi or nothing?

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Pagan said the new signings would form the basis for the club's future. "Contrary to some opinions we think that some of our young players are really growing and taking sizeable leaps forward."Walker, selected at No. 2 by the Blues in the 2003 draft, was given a two-year deal worth just under $200,000 a year, while Waite signed a new three-year contract worth more than $700,000. Livingston, who was selected at No. 4 in the 2000 draft but has been hampered by injury, was given a one-year deal to rebuild his career.



Livingston was re-signed but for only 1 year not 2! :?


Clem and verbs marke this URL down so that in three years time you can use it to discuss Walker's and Waite's worth to the club.

:lol:


:lol:

It says "more than $700,000"...so...$800,000...$900,000??? :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:20 am 
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Kosi has been offered a "mediocre contract" thats from a very good source.
He will stay for less but he has his livelihood to look after...
400k will keep him.. probablly even a litle less than that... but not peanuts.
If StKilda could easily find more they would offer it.
It wasnt what they expected... he came back too soon and played too well..
Just in the nick of time i reckon!!!! :D

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