I've noticed that. Not a real friendly bunch, the SS lads and lasses...some real champs there too though.

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We take a far too lenient attitude to "trolling" little pissants like you cooloola - Lentil off pack to SS - the accumulated IQ on this site will only fall by 1 point but increase by 100% over there.

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After todays effort and in fact for his efforts all year, Lappin should organise a meeting for Monday morning and sign what ever he can get from Carlton. Preferably a two year contract. I've been a fan of Lappin's since he almost took the mark of the year against Essendon* back in 1999 and it's sad to see how bad he is playing at the moment.

I understand it would be difficult to play good football in our team at the moment however he is always second to the ball and seems disinterested.

He DID take MOTY against the Bumbers, it was his first game for the club.

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Without quoting anyone in particular, I must say there's a general feeling of criticism for a lot of people. If it's not Campo, it's Livo, Whitnall, etc., etc.

All I can say that it's pretty easy to hate blokes when things aren't going your way and everyone is fair game, I suppose. They get the bucks, they have to cop it.

I'm not even sure if I'm angry or who I am angry at anymore. I'm in despair. I know that much. It's the worst feeling to see your team be as bad as we are.

I'm not even sure what point I'm making, so take from it what you will T'Cers.

These blokes have letr us down.
Not so much Lappin but we have to start putting things into perspective.

Some of the Lions guns are getting much less than Campo and Lappin want.
The club doesnt mind paying Lappin inparticular more $$$$ than other clubs would but not at the cost of 3 years.
Campo is lucky he has a mate who is chairman of selectors cos id be turtfing the ratboy out first and paying Lappin, Campos offer.

Livo played ok considering he wouldnt have been the ideal match up against Shotgun Williams.

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I was thinking the same thing.

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having sat through yestyerday's debacle (at one stage the entire crowd around me - irrespective of support - was yelling to the players "KICK IT" and cheered as one when someone did), I think we need to keep Lappin. He has the samarts that takes him where the ball is. I know he didn't play well, but he found the footy when he went forward and was better than that perenial turnover Queen Houlihan, and the clueless Camporele.

The latter's decision making processes are currently up the spout entirely. Yesterday streaming out of Defence, with no options ahead of him, he changed direction and kicked into the middle of the ground where there was 4 to 1 against us. Resulting turnover a goal. And he could've kept running hard, if he'd chosen to.

Houlihan should go. if we can get something for him great. I'm sorry but his 24 years and 100 games of experienc count for shit when he kicks it on on the full/to the opposition/as some sort of floating pieces of shit that ends up no where.

As for Livo, too easily outbodied by Williams ( i saw it thre or four times, certainly twice in the last quarter when the game was there to be stolen).

Ok, he's got one year, and I agree he has advanced this year and we have no other replacement for him, so lets keep him.

Guess that last bit speaks volumes about where we are.

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Camporeale at one stage in the last quarter was in an ineffective position behind the ball and the runner had to tell him to move to a spot where he would be more effective.
ie fifty meters behind the ball and not one hundred and fifty....

The bloke has lost it...

Its not that he doesnt have the 'smarts' its that he doesnt care... he is just running out there because he has to.
I cant believe he wont sign a contract... I cant believe he wants to stay with us....
I cant believe he is a vice captain....


People couldnt understand why i was on their case all year, well there you go!!!!

Loyal club servant or not.. he is a crap footballer who doesnt care about the club but only cares about lining his own pockets.
Campo could have helped the club by concentrating less on himself and more on the young footballers at the club.

As for Lappin if he doesnt want to play he can piss off too...

We cant afford to have 30 year old passengers who have their hands out for money.

We arent in a position to be carrying our leadership group...

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yeah, I'd think that Lappin isn't worth vilifying in the same breath as Campo.

Lappin's is more of an idealogical stand.

I sort of hope they can work it out with Lappin, but if he won't budge on the 3 year deal, then he's got to go.

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seems Campo's contract offer has been withdrawn also

Lappin deal in limbo

Yeah I saw that too Synbad. Game was in the balance and one of the most senior players had to be told where to stand

Who can our young players look to for guidance? No wonder Denis has given Walks tagging jobs this year. If our senior guys can't show the young blokes where to run then it's up to the opposition I guess....

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The Campo incident happened right in front of me. He had options up forward. Sure, there was a contest but it was up the line and would surely have resulted in a throw-in WCS inside our 50. Instead, as you mentioned, he went in-board and a massive turnover that made the Hawks look far better than they are.

As for Houla skirt, we had a 2 on 1 on the wing. It was an chance for the brave man to put body preassure on the opposition or run to space and receive a handball to go inside 50. Instead he chose to wadle off and offer no assistance at all.

Trade him for a bunch of bananas.

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Wouldn't have signed Livo, he has been terible all year. He was shocking on Saturday.

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interesting to see lappin apparentley agreed to the two years, only for the club to do a backflip.

i reckon thats pretty harsh by the club, but maybe lappo had already burnt some bridges and perhaps the tax bombshell last week has effected things.

as for campo, i'm happy for the club to take an offer of the table.

i'd offer him 100k with incentives for 200K and if thats not enough for campo, then he can be traded or delistsed.
i'm sick of the sight of him.
its sad to see your idols fad away so bad towards the end of their careers, but with the club as bad as it is, hard calls need to be made.

got any better ideas for our fullback posistion for 2006?

hoping eddie betts has a few more cms in him?

cant throw the baby out with the bathwater

Thornton would do nicley at FB, Try Bryan at CHB.

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L.M 35-06

fair dinkum,still no respect for guys that try their guts out for you guys,
no wonder hamill left.

you guys reckon people should play for you for nothing but the privilege,you forget they have familys and have to look after them after footy.

typical liberal voters wait till johnny puts all of you on individual contracts, then we'll watch you scream and squirm.

lappins been in your top five for yrs

and obviously you can't read over here and you definitely have no comprehension skills otherwise you would understand what :

Harford has claimed Lappin had actually agreed to a new deal only to have it withdrawn by the club.

"He agreed to a two-year deal with another incentive on top of that," Harford said. "As soon as they came back with the incentive, it was taken off the table."

No wonder you guys are rabble

Wouldn't vote for Johhny in a pink fit Jezza.


However our contract negoiations this year have been shambolic to say the very least.

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