no no Juzz when that happens Livo was lucky or the forward had an off day, you only count the days when someone does kick a few against him. And with Livo 4 is a bag! 7 an absolute disgrace. 10! If he ever has 10 kicked on him people here will flay him alive!

is he a great fb? No.

is he elegant - hell no (part of his problem actually)

but considerign this team is shit and the goals kicked against this team Livo has down remarkably well - just lucky i guess.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

SOS did spend a season or two with Livo in 2002/2003. To such a degree that Livo's nickname at the time was "SOSA" - (Son of Serge's Apprentice).

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Did anyone else notice in the 3rd quarter (i think) Livo backing into a pack trying to take a chest mark, when the obvious thing he had to do was punch the ball, and allowed Williams to take an easy overhead mark. Just stupid, I don't think Livo has a very good football brain.

I was pretty disappointed that he wasn't in the best position to go for the mark but wasn;t upset with the idea. It seems that when our backmen go the spoil it simply falls in the arms of an opponent anyway we're travelling that well.