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A bit hard on him he was our best player last year and for several years up there, but i doubt he is playing poor because of his contract, he could play really well and the club could considered his offer and other clubs might be interested but he is pushing, well his managers are for 3 years really depends on the money i think, not the 3 years. Performance contract is the best.


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Lappin has been a champion for this club and I can't criticise him, he was awesome last year and has been our best over the last couple of poor years. I think that he was always going to struggle to back up last season's stellar form, especially when you consider the way our season's gone. His form this season has been patchy and he has had some good games although Sunday wasn't one of those. I think he's just out of form at the moment, maybe he's carrying an injury, who knows. I'd rather keep Lappin but not for a 3 year deal, ideally he'll sign up for 2. You need to remember he brings a lot of experience and quality to the side and has been good for Carlton, I reckon he deserves our respect.

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god it amazes me how quickly some people are to point the finger and say "take a hike"

christ, two weeks ago it was kouta and look at his performance on the weekend.
it's been a long long season for us, especially seems we went flat out for the wizzer cup.

Maybe lappin has been worn down from be relied apon so much?

give him a break.

sure if he doesnt back down from three years then all the best and tahnks for the memories, but lets not burn him at the stake.

if he is sore and struggling then give him a week off especially if no ressies are playing this week.

then play him off the bench against the pies and throw him up forward for three cameo last quater goals :D


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Ponkstar wrote:
Do any of you know for a fact that Lappin is playing poorly because of his contract?

Do you know for a fact that there is not something else eg injury, poor confidence, team structure behind his poor form?


Exactly right.

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i agree that lappin has been a great player - this year he has declined which has no doubt affected his prospects of getting a 3 year deal - i have no idea what money they are offering him, so its hard to actually comment on who is being unreasonable etc - but I support carlton taking firm stances on our players who are 29+


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Agree with you Bozman. I reckon the club are handling this quite well and its Lappin who chukin a sooky becasue hes not getting a lot of money.
I think we have a problem at the club where players think there good when there not.

having said that I reckon Lappin is a great player and I would love for him to say. If we were to lose him and I hope we would be fairly compsenated. My guess if he gos it will be to the tiges or da saints.


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Its not as if he is just going thriough a bad patch. HE IS NOT TRYING. Anybody that watches him play atm and thinks he is giving anything over 60% (I'm being generous) is either kidding themselves or just plain wrong. He is making a statement. Whether he lifts his intensity to woo would-be suitors depends on how many functioning brain cells he has left

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Fevolaaaa, you can't be serious?

"It's his holding the club to ransom, in a recidivist fashion, that bugs me"
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How has he been a recidivist?

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Yes have to agree with that - was he holding the club to ransom when he agree to stay for less money when out of contract?

Buzz I don't think anyone disagrees with you about his lack of intensity but we are only speculating about the cause.

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i can not undertand how there is all this talk about not resigning matty lappin but there are still people who are willing to offer lance 350k+. Lappin week in week out contributes to the carlton footy club where as lance fails to give the club anything to hang there hat on in terms of resigning. out of lance and mattie one was an all-australian last year one was half a decade ago ones body is up to sratch for afl the others isnt. i dont think at this stage this footy club can be willing to lose all-australian. im not saying trade lance but what i am saying is that lappin has shown enough to be resigned where as lance hasnt. if carlton arent careful we will find lappin playing well winning premierships with saints and the player we could have had for lance say bartel winning premierships with geelong and lance will be at carlton playing average footy in the back line. But having said that i believe at the right price lance can still be a valueble playing asset for the club but i would take lappin before him.


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Look its e e cummings on TC.

Agree that Lappin is an important contributor but guess its a matter of taking a stand against 3 year contracts for older players.

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I love Skinny and would hate to see him go. However, I think the club is taking the correct path by sticking to a two-year deal.

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Is it contract length that is the problem with Lappo. Do any of us know this for sure?
It could be money?
He could want success?

I could be wrong about the bottom 2 but it could be many factos leading up to Lappo wanting out.


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Locke wrote:
Is it contract length that is the problem with Lappo. Do any of us know this for sure?
It could be money?
He could want success?

I could be wrong about the bottom 2 but it could be many factos leading up to Lappo wanting out.


The only thing we know for sure is that he turns 30 before the start of next season and his form is down and getting worse at the moment.


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Locke wrote:
Is it contract length that is the problem with Lappo. Do any of us know this for sure?
It could be money?
He could want success?


Yeah Locke, you do! You told us it's money only 1 page back

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Agree with you Bozman. I reckon the club are handling this quite well and its Lappin who chukin a sooky becasue hes not getting a lot of money.

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Blue Bird wrote:
Buzz I don't think anyone disagrees with you about his lack of intensity but we are only speculating about the cause.


Does it matter?
Do you want someone playing at your club who will decide whether or not he will try depending on how he feels? Seriously. Who cares what the reason. He is a well paid footballer. There should be no question of his effort.

BTW my daughter got a 4th birthday card from the club yesterday and it had Lappin on the cover. Bit ironic.
Probably means he's getting some marketing dough also. Last year was Fev, Kouta the year before

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