We'd be mad not to explore our options at seasons end. If we get offered something fair & equitable then take it and run.

And if we don't we keep him.

If we only we structured our game plan to take advantage of his strengths then he could be that 70 goal a season player he was all those years ago.

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including Wojee's comment....and I second, third and Fourth that!

We keep him for what we think he's worth, we trade if someone offers more tahn that!

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Sounds like suicide to me.

When you've got consistently great footballers such as Wayne Carey/Jonathan Brown/Warren Tredrea you can structure your game plan around them.

When you've got a guy who pulls his finger out only every third full moon then you're asking for trouble.

Accepting it doesn't make it any less a negative.

I simply want what is best for the club. Lance on $250,000 a year might be best for the club, or if he's traded to someone who's willing to pay him stacks more than we're prepared to then that might be best for the club.

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I am of the understanding that Lance has been told by the club that they will negoiate with him at the END of the season and not before.

If he does go and he is happy to stay but also realises that he may get significantly more elseware - he thinks that the Bullies would be a good fit for him.

I wouldn't blame him - if my employer offered me $200,000 and at the end of my contract a rival in the same business with an arguably better up-side offered $400,000 I would be off! But loyalty or what constitutes loyalty is a completely different issue!!

I reckon if there was about 50 grand differance in the contracts he will be offered (one from the blues, one from a rival club) I reckon he will stay with the blues. I swear he said publicly a while back (this year) that he wanted to be a one club player.

Personally I reckon keep him this year, trade him next in a suppousedly stronger draft.

Point is, and I hope it isn't so, Lance will never have any more outstanding seasons like he did in those halcyon days.

Back then he was killing teams playing the hardest position on the ground: CHF.

These days we should be glad if he solidly contributes, with the odd bag of 4 or 5 goals in a game.


We have to think about what is good for the CFC. As others have said, if we get offered something decent, something that we need, then we should conduct a trade.

Other than that, we should keep him.. But just not expect him to perform like the player he one was.

Like I said before, he isn't stupid.
He'll want a 2 year + deal which will include security.

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Well i he isnt stupid then he must know that he is not getting that. Not having a go at you PJ but your being right pisses me off

Hope we can keep him some how.

If we offer a 1 year deal at 300k (as has been reported) and another club is prepared to offer 350k and a 2 year deal and rate him that much then they will have to pay in a good trade.
If other clubs feel he is worth more than 300k and a 1 year deal then they are going to have to be prepared to give something good up.
Personally 300k is to much to offer in my opinion anyway.
Funny things do get done with KPP players though.
Croad, Rawlings, Ottens and Thommo come to mind.

Apart from Rawlings, the other three would be walk up starts in our line up. Our big man stocks arent the best. The sad things is all 4 of them are duds.

Clubs will most definately not opt for Lance in exchange for their 1st rounder next year. If we want a good pick for him it's this year or not at all.

I just think with a one year offer, he will have to play some of the best football of his life in that year to keep his spot on the list and with Pagan's gameplan designed in the way it is, Lance won't perform.

Better off sending him to a club where he can work well under their game plan....i.e the Cats or Dogs.

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Who said anything about a first rounder, even a decent round second pic next year might be good. However your probably right and if we are going to trade lance it is now or never, as much as i would like to keep him.

Maybe there is a stigma attached to trading a first round pick. I would take 2 second round picks for Lance in such an even draft after the first few.

An example might be

Lance to the Dogs. They keep there first round pick (7) and draft whichever KPP player is available (clark, ryder, hughes, kennedy).
There second round pick is traded to us (23) and we also want another so they trade there third round pick (39) plus a frienge player (Birss etc) to Coll for there second round pick (21)

So we get pick 21 and pick 23 for Lance. In an even draft where after the first 4 or 5 the next 20 seem all about even we get 2 quality youngsters instead of 1.

We can do better than picks 21 and 23...

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In this draft pick 21 and 23 is better than 1 first round pick at 10.

The only problem with that PJ is Pagans gameplan does not work unless you have the following

The greatest player ever to play The game
Or one of the greatest Full forwards to play the game

If you haven't got either of those two along with a weak opposition it wont work.

So unless there is a Carey or Hudson in the draft Pagan needs to change his gameplan much like he did last weekend

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If Lance played most of this season like he did in the Wizard Cup, he could fill out the Carey role in Pagan's Paddock.

And what has been the major factor in Lance's inability to do that?

His undisciplined nature.

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