So the contracts could not have been done prior and they all waited till 3 weeks before trade time to do them???

and everybody else is all signed up .. even Deluca???

Yeah... ok...

Sounds like logic

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Does not make sense to me. The club signed up 3 players only a few weeks ago. Meanwhile these 3 have been an ongoing saga for 3 or 4 months now.
Either the club is not interested in retaining them or they want out and are asking for to much.

...or both....

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Bradley used tyo drag his contract finalising out until Feb ... perhaps some think they can be like him ... without the on-field performance and preparation to back it up

My god some sense! Our middle tier clearly went backwards!

Davies, Sporn, Prender, Wiggins, Johnson, Bannister, Houla, Clarke, etc.

No-one put their hand up! No Daniel Cross. No Shane Tuck.

So much opportunity and none of the middle tier was (or is) up to it.

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Three senior players with very complicated previous contracts, lots of i's to be dotted and t's to be crossed not simple ones like a Livingston or a De Luca and not everybody else is signed up.

Give you a personal example. The more junior staff at work spent about 15 minutes with management for thier new contracts, mine as a senior worker took a while longer as a fair bit more had to be covered. I was never going to leave but some issues did have to be sorted out and ratifications sought. Thus it took about a week. Actually it was all very civil.

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Livo, Waite and Walker were signed 3 months ago.
Then we started with all the Whitnall, Campo and Lappin stuff. Plenty of comments from Collo. F to Z grade stuff and players should not hold off on signing new contracts. So on and so on.
Harford saying a few outspoken words on the handling of new contracts.
The season rolls on with plenty of sepecualtion. Then 2 weeks ago Deluca, Carrazzo and Scotland sign on.

Still nothing on these 3 blokes. Collo in hospital with heart surgery. Then for a leg injury but they still signed off on Deluca etc.

I like your analogy about you being a senior worker compared to 'junior workers'. How does that fit in with signing Waite, Fevola, Walker and Scotland who would all be considered more valuable than Lappin and Campo at this stage.

The club has signed there prorities. They have left the 3 they are prepared to deal if they dont accept smaller offers. Maybe the players want to leave. I dont know.

Look at Essendon* 2 weeks ago Welsh wanted 300k and Johnson 340k.
Mark Johnson was signed up a week later for that money and Welsh was signed also. Did not take Essendon* long to come to the party. They want them at the club for the future so they signed them up.

We will wait and see.

Personally I think some are reading more into the situation than is really there. It is all speculation really, speculation that may or may not prove to be correct. The only people who really know what is going on are the players concerned, the CEO, Collo and Dennis.

Besides in hindsight some would suggest that the signing of Fevola may have been a bit hasty

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In hindsight the best thing the club did this year was sign Fevola in my opinion early on. Saves the bid that Hawthorn/Collingwood and a few others would be preparing for him now.

This is where we will have to agree to disagree. Our 2nd and 3rd tier players have been around for approximately 4 years. Wiggins and Sporn came to us in the 2000 I believe. If we have to continue to wait for such players including Davies, Bannister, Johnson and Clarke Sporn, Prender to take the next step up we will continue to stagnate down the bottom. They have been given opportunities but have failed to grasp it albeit with poor leadership from the senior players.

The majority of these players will be delisted. I want the newer signings to be given those senior births in order to accelerate their development regardless of form. I agree that guys like Russell and Hartlett's form in the VFL may not warrant it but such is the poor standard of VFL football at the moment, exposure limited to the VFL will not prepare them adequately for the required standard in the AFL.

You just have to watch the last few VFL games featuring the Bullants to see the poor kicking, decision making, skill errors. Would love to see Russell run off the half back line in the seniors and hopefully help him overcome his "soft" tag. I want to see Hartlett play in the backline and add some height and aggression. Holding on to Campo and Digby will deprive these two of such opportunities. If it means finishing last next year, so be it. These youngsters will repay our faith in the years to come.

Let's make the hard decisions now before we cultivate a culture of mediocrity.

Conundrum.. spot on!!!!

And BM.. i doubt anyone waited till just before trade week to talk Turkey about contracts...

There is more to it than meets the eye.. and its got nothing to do with the fact that theyre required players.

Sign or go.. has been the clubs mantra fromn day one.

Nothing to do with heart surgery and broken legs...

Thats why theres this guy called a CEO at the club ....and he handles all that stuff....

There is a ripper chance that in 2 more weeks.. 2 weeks before trade week none of these blokes are signed up... will it be Collos heart that is to blame???

Do you think if Collos heart stopped(Touch wood) nothing will ever happen around the club ever again??
Will no other player ever have a contract?????

Just ask yourself why is it THREE WEEKS before trade time and these blokes are still without a contract if theyre required players....???

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any offer to Campo that is on, or above, minimum wage is too much.

The guy adds no value to the team. He's probably counterproductive if anything.

If he has a business here, maybe another Melbourne club will look at him. Maybe St.Kilda.....? the "cream" and all that? Isn't he best mates with Hamill?

Campo to St.Kilda for Leigh Fisher

How's that?

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Can someone please tell me when the trade period is this year.

One week after the GF.....

Clubs not involved in the finals get an ealry start...


(. Its started....)

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October 3 it starts.

I mean unofficially....

But were not talking to anyone cos were waiting on Collo and everything is hedging on the three guns our out of contract

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Thanks for the replys

Have you spoken to Collo, Malouf or the players concerned? If you haven't then you are speculating just like everybody else has been.

We all know that you want them out of the club and have been predicting Lances and Campo's demise for three years. One day you will be right.

They may stay, they maybe traded ( as Fev's manager stated, everyone is tradable, given the right offer) hell they may be without clubs next year. But we will not know until the final decision has been made.

Last year a lot of noise was made about who was going and staying and like most years (2003 excepted) not a lot actually happens.

I must admit I pay little credence to the rumours and 'dead certs' that get floated around at this time of year. It is called the 'silly season' for a reason. We really do not know who is going where until the end of trade week or even who will be playing next season until final playing lists are submitted to the league. And every year players who were 'required' are traded/delisted and those who were 'definatly going' stay.

To steal a line from Greenday "Wake me up when Draft Week ends"

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I make stuff up to get the board moving along.. i do a pretty good job too dont i????


And ok.. ill wake you up in a month or so.. and bring you a shaver and soap....

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Cheers

Never accused you of making things up Synners, but even you would admit there literally hundreds of rumours flying around the club at the moment. Given the law of averages at least a few will be right.

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