79Vintage wrote:
camelboy wrote:
79Vintage wrote:
The way Big Nick spoke was how it used to and still should be at a football club.
And yet many are theorising on what we could get for trading most of the players that Nicholls' speech was aimed at. So what do we want, a mutual unconditional loyalty, or the ability for the club to treat a player how they like; ie, you'll sign for this much or its goodbye, and even if you do sign we'll probably try and trade you anyway.
Life is so much more simple when there 18 against 18 on a patch of grass.
And the same players have managers assessing offers from other clubs.
Repeat again, a lot different to Brisbane and St. Kilda players who are accepting $200k below what they could get elsewhere.
Lenny Hayes says St. kilda players are about creating their own history, give us players who have that attitude and trade value wouldn't come into it, but only Addison apples are good enough for Carlton's Mr. Eds.
Come on Vintage, you can't compare the St. Kilda situation to ours.
St Kilda is on the verge of glory and will sacrifice individual reward for team success. Brisbane did this too, when there is a carrot of playing in flag-winning sides then naturally you're going to be more inclined to sacrificing a bit of cash in order to play with your mates in a premiership. When you're not quite on the verge of a premiership, the players would feel as though they might as well take the money if they're not going to be experiencing any premiership glory anytime soon.
Last time I checked Vintage, Carlton weren't on the cusp of a flag. St Kilda are. Brisbane spent 4 years up the top, why would you not take a bit less in order to achieve more? You might think it's selfish but Carlton aren't in that position. If we were knocking on the door of a premiership I have little doubt that our players' attitudes would be like those of the players at St. Kilda etc.
But we're not in that position. It's ok to paint Carlton's players as mercenaries Vintage and the oppositions' as philanthropists but this whole issue is a reflection of how you're travelling as a club, i.e. realistic chance of quick success = higher likelihood of staying on less money.