One of the poorest games of football I've seen for a long time in terms of quality, but I'm not sure why so many are complaining about a lack of effort.

One of the poorest games of football I've seen for a long time in terms of quality, but I'm not sure why so many are complaining about a lack of effort.

On this basis, how many "watershed days" have we had and not learned from? Too many to count.

The last seconds told the story of the night...

What part of the game plan has Eddie Betts trying to take a spekkie over the top of either Casbault or Henderson, knocking them over (I cant remember who...)?

Er, Eddie...are you supposed to be crumbing for a possible goal at the foot of the pack?

Just dumb, dumb football...

Did you see the tackle count? We got pantsed there most of the night?

Did you see us get cute in the 3Q? We took out foot off their throat and allowed them back in.

The effort was deplorable, backed up by a talentless mob of underlings who simply failed to try.

Simmo is the only one who could hold his head up high.

It perspective I suppose. In the first and third quarters we outplayed them comprehensively, only then to constantly miss when going for goal.

Make no mistake, I left the ground as gutted and angry as I've been after any loss, and there were some individuals I think were very poor. Warnock, Joseph, Duigan, and many others, are examples of players on our list who simply are not AFL standard players. They make the effort, but don't have either the physical ability, nor the football nous to make the grade.

To me the moment was Casboult !@#$%& around 50 out when he had ample opportunity to get the ball in quick. Either he choked, or was given no (clear) direction from his teammates on what to do. Turnover, goal.

Of course there were countless others, but this was the moment I knew the game was gone.

Only one good thing last night is realising we have a quality player in Menzel

Eddie is great at attempting to specie. Missing the ball completely. Then givin away a free

Kade Simpson - Fantastic!

Brock going off hurt us a LOT! No in and under.


McInnes, AJ, Duigan (tried hard) NOt up to it.

Very frustrating game.

Too many boys who sleep with the lights on, cant wait to see what we do in the off season to fix this.

This game was a carbon copy of earlier in the year

To the T

In the earlier game White I'm pretty sure it was had two shocking moments late in the game, first was the hapless attempt to tackle where the Ess player bounced off him. And the second was the gutless attempt to mark at the death. Well McCinness' pissweak attempt to mark at the death, in fact he didn't even try instead tried to punch the ball when he should have had the kahoonas to mark, was a carbon copy of the White balls up

Simply amazing

In both games terrible kicking for goal and a third tall defender completely shitting themselves under pressure at the death cost us the game

McCINNES just like White ought to be dropped instantly for this effort. I know he is a kid but that's just not good enough.

Under pressure true characters are revealed

I feel sorry for Mick. History has shown you need cattle, and history has also shown AFL players for one reason or another kicking for goal is the one skill that hasn't improved over 100 years.

Mick is a realist, he knows too well the problems with the list

He spoke early in the year of the need to find big bodied midfielders. He hinted strongly Gibbs was the type of player we need. But we have very few of these big bodied quality mids, and the back line is putrid as evidenced by McCinness brain fade - so Gibbs is deployed a HB or to tag etc.

We simply don't have enough talent

No depth

Means we have to fill holes with our quality

Simpson and Walker and Gibbs and Scotland fill holes

But even there it's not ideal. Walkerlays HB because he can run and carry but he is hopeless one on one as a defender, has no idea

Should be a wingman bar the fact we have no quality down back so he is deployed there

What do we do? We can't go off and get 6 grea players in one off season, can we?

I have said before thee ae 20 players who need to go, that is 2-3 years of turning the list over.

So it's essentially a new beginning, starting all over. Murphy will be 28!

All because of Hughes' deplorable recruitment under Ratten and Sticks watch

Synbads is right, HbFs. Before last year when was the last time we took a mid early? Lucas who can run but kicking is suspect and is another soft top ice cream. Now in the Twos.

Lack of mental toughness, see Lucas soft, see McCinness last night, White earlier game, Yarran soft, Garlett soft, etc etc, this is compounded by a poor leadership group. Waite showed up by Hurley. Gibbs terrible kick to seal it. betts terrible kick to seal it. Murphy not fit but that doesnt excuse his refusal to impose himself at stoppages. Terrible. Only Simpson stood up!

What to do?.

The list problems are interlinked because the football field is interlinked

What would be great would be to pull a Syd type trade for an experienced quality mid size defender. Like the one they got from Adel those years back. Not mature angers who can't kick like Duigan. Actually go and get a quality proven defender, or two.

Then get a quality mid, and probably not Dale Thomas cause his ankle is a worry and he's not a big bodied mid. If you could get Dale and a quality big bodied mid that would be huge. But it's easier said then done.

Blues need to bite the bullet and give up a lot to get a lot.

Yarran tried his guts out las night but poor kicking, lack of belief to seal it himself, a terribly soft effort that swung the momentum their way, stupid reckless frees undermined his effort. He's clearly trying but is it too late for him?

We have wasted so many years on Armfield and Robinson who will also be retards out there.

What would we seriously get for the following, not saying you trade them all but what would we get then decide which ones to try and shop around ...

Yarran
Warnock
Hampson
Betts
Robinson
Armfield

Through trading these types, through FA, through maybe trading our first pick, can we get some proven, quality, hard defenders and some proven, hard, quality big bodied mids???

Everyone says we need a quality big fwd but I'd say that's jus about impossible to get unless you sell the farm, and anyhow Hendo and Cas look promising IMO. Had Robinson not been a complete dick Cas would have snagged a goal late just like the two strong marks he took in the goal square last week. Robinson you complete flower!

It's ironic after years wasting picks on HBFs we actually have none other than Gibbs and Simpson and Walker. What a disgrace for the recruitment dept. An indictment

Get two players in the mould of Mattner, those types. Frees up Walker and Gibbs so they can go to midfield permanently. Stop plugging holes. Duigan had one god year and Laidler is a cripple. It didn't work.

We simply must get more quality into this team.

This list has never finished higher than fifth for a good reason.

And now Judd, Scotland, Carrazzo, Waite are nearing the end. So the vacuum is in full effect. Need even more talent.

Mick will improve some players but he can't turn unskilled hacks into good players, once a hack always a hack. And he can't turn 20 shit players into gold.

Geez wouldn't it be nice to have Roughie and Buddy.

McInnes, SERIOUSLY????

Coming back from a serious knee he has done exceptionally well. Will be a very good player for a long time.

One of our shinning lights for the future.