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Cretylus

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:43 am

Robert Walls

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AGRO wrote:

Klomp, Bortolotto & Bosustow are dual premiership players and not on the list, in particular for Bosustow it's almost unjustifiable he is not included on the list.

Parkin said that Bosustow took the defensive aspect of Forward Play up to another level...

People remember Buz for his freakish acts on the ground and marks etc, but he harassed, chased, tackled, blocked etc...

fantastic player

And when you have the dominator on the other side of Maclure, you have a dynamic ferocious half forward line, packed with skill

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Beantown

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:45 am

Rod Ashman

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Might have overloaded on 95 premiership players. Only Clape, Pearce and Whitehead missed.

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17th Premiership

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:15 am

Rod Ashman

Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:22 am
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Cretylus wrote:

17th Premiership wrote:

Some of my heroes from late 70s onwards.... (I was born a bit too late to appreciate Nicholls....)

Jezza, Walls, McKay, Maclure, Southby, Harmes, Fitzpatrick
Ashman, Buckley, Cattogio, Marcou, Sheldon, Keogh, McConville, BOSUSTOW, P Jones, W Jones, Des English, Curly Austin, Barry Armstrong
Johnston, Perovic, Bradley, MOTLEY, Kernahan, Rhys-Jones, Alvin, Hanna, Gleeson, Meldrum
Spalding, Madden, Williams, Kouta, Ratten, Rice, McKay, Brown
Fev, Lappin
Judd, M Murphy

'Almost but not quite' heroes:
Dorotitch, Pearce, Clape, Wiggins!!!, Marchesani (cos he won the GF half time sprint...), Maylin

'Perhaps but not quite yet':
Gibbs, Kreuzer...

Top 5 from that list:
Jezza, Bosustow, Johnston, Kernahan, Williams (with Kouta, Judd on the bench...)

No Bortolloto?

And no Klomp? Surely Klomp deserves a mention - he won a TV in a night game, with 3 possessions

My list is by no means exhasutive...
Yes, I'd include Bortolloto and Hamill. And Kourkoumelis. Maybe De Ilulio. And Betts. Not sure about Klomp - I used to like him but have no idea whether or not he was really any good.

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The Rhino

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:39 am

Craig Bradley

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AGRO wrote:

No Aaron Hamill, I'm happy with that. :wink:

I felt his presence on the list just the same though.

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Cretylus

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:42 am

Robert Walls

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17th Premiership wrote:

Cretylus wrote:

17th Premiership wrote:

No Bortolloto?

And no Klomp? Surely Klomp deserves a mention - he won a TV in a night game, with 3 possessions

....but Klomp won a TV set for being BOG in a night game, with 3 possession

surely that has to be worth something

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ThePsychologist

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:52 am

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if the Buzz isn't in our Top 150 then I am not even going to read it. Ridiculous.

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sandramd1967

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:54 am

Horrie Clover

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Ludicrous scenario when Buzz misses out were we finding it hard to find 150 players? Guys like Wiggo and Beaumont have no place in amongst the top 150

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Blueboy74

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:17 am

Mike Fitzpatrick

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sandramd1967 wrote:

Ludicrous scenario when Buzz misses out were we finding it hard to find 150 players? Guys like Wiggo and Beaumont have no place in amongst the top 150

No WIGGINS! in there, but have to agree.

Was never a Matthew Allan fan either. Great 1999, but not much else.

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kingkerna

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:42 am

Bruce Doull

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Gleeson a selector, says it all

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blueycarlton

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:46 am

Rod McGregor

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Wow, only one player good enough from the first 33 years of the club's history to be in the top 150.
What about Conway, Donovan, Guy, O'Brien, Gardiner, Robertson, Baker, Leydin, Strickland, all captains, to name a few.
Now that's the same as having only one player included between 1981 -2014.
Of course, it's April Fools Day up at Princes Park.

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aramari

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:09 pm

Mike Fitzpatrick

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blueycarlton wrote:

And what about Bert Boromeo?

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Adam Chatfield

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:14 pm

Geoff Southby

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Stocking way too far in favour of recent players, blokes in our first 33 years won 5 flags.

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aramari

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:27 pm

Mike Fitzpatrick

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1903 - 3rd
1904 - 2nd
1905 - 3rd
1906 - 1st
1907 - 1st
1908 - 1st
1909 - 2nd
1910 - 2nd
1911 - 4th
1912 - 3rd
1913 - 6th
1914 - 1st
1915 - 1st
1916 - 2nd
1917 - 3rd
1918 - 3rd
1919 - 3rd
1920 - 3rd
1921 - 2nd
1922 - 4th

20 years with one year outside the finals, 5 flags and 10 grand finals

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Dukes

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:35 pm

Harry Vallence

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Location: Within the old Carlton recruting zone ...

Buzz should be in ... nuff said. Change one word of the criteria and he's in ... minimum of 50 games OR five years service.

I'm not sold on minimum service criteria, tends to favour the average over the spectacular. Take Noel O'Brien and Greg Kennedy for instance. O'Brien kicked 118 goals in 31 games (average 3.8 per game) in a season and a half then retired due to injury and Kennedy kicked 79 goals in his debut season (including 12 against Hawthorn) and iinjured his back yet we're selecting Thornton???! It's a "best 150" list not "most consistent 150" or "longest surviving 150" list.

Michael Jamieson should definitely be in, much better than anything Thornton served up and has Manton covered as well as a key defender. Buzz and Ditchburn were leading goalkickers in premiership years ... surely that's enough to get both in. I remember Peter McConville, Phil Maylin, Mark Naley and Fraser Murphy all as good performers in finals. Peter Francis is a premiership player and certainly not his fault we traded him out midway through the 1981 season.

Massive queries over Allan, Beaumont, Dorotich, Hogg, Kreuzer, Manton and Thornton from the players I've seen.

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CK95

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:38 pm

Bruce Doull

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ThePsychologist wrote:

if the Buzz isn't in our Top 150 then I am not even going to read it. Ridiculous.

Same applies to Brad Pearce for me.

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Dukes

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:53 pm

Harry Vallence

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Location: Within the old Carlton recruting zone ...

aramari wrote:

How about these:

Jack Conway (captain for 4 years, champion of the colony)
Ernie Walton (captain for 2 years and Victoria representative)
Mick Grace (Coleman medal winner, 2 x premierships)

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Michael Jezz

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:53 pm

Rod Ashman

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madblue21

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:01 pm

Trevor Keogh

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David kernahan didn't make it either!!!!

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The Rhino

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:19 pm

Craig Bradley

Joined: Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:20 pm
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sandramd1967 wrote:

Ludicrous scenario when Buzz misses out were we finding it hard to find 150 players? Guys like Wiggo and Beaumont have no place in amongst the top 150

You've just made the enemies list.

I'd move house if I were you.

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Cretylus

Post subject: Re: Carlton's top 150

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:42 pm

Robert Walls

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aramari wrote:

...and dont forget within this era the Blues were found guilty of fixing the outcome of a grand final

(see the 1909 and 1910 seasons)

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