Blue Vain wrote:
Dominator_7 wrote:
Mick backed himself to get the best out of the players and change their softness and their bad habits that were instilled into them by super coach Ratts.
Most players just haven't responded because they're either lazy, mentally weak FIGJAMs (Gibbs, Waite, Murphy, Garlett) or their skills are just deplorable (Lucas, Graham, Robbo).
We played finals 3 out of 4 years with lazy, soft, mentally weak players with deplorable skills.
You talk about peoples hate of MM blinding their judgement.
How about the hate and bullshit thrown at Ratten? Its quite probable he was a poor coach with plenty of deficiencies but some of the comparisons between Mick and Ratts are laughable.
Exactly what improvements are you seeing under Malthouse? You're happy to lay the boots into "super coach Ratts" but what exactly are you seeing now that wasn't evident for the past 5 years? (Apart from us sitting 17th on the ladder with a comparatively healthy list)
I keep hearing about us being better defensively under Mick. Well that's obviously nonsense.
I'm being told he couldn't change the list because we couldn't move with contracts in place yet we offered Cloke the best part of a million dollars.
As for Mick changing their "softness" and bad habits. Exactly what are you talking about? I'd suggest plenty of people are throwing baseless statements around presenting them as facts.
I agree Ratts wasn't the man for the job but I've seen absolutely nothing to suggest Mick is.
How about someone enlightening us with something tangible other than "the vibe"
...and Mick Malthouse is an experienced coach that one would think didnt need a long honey moon period to get the team up and running...
In fact MM, when he first arrived at the club (ie after he sent in Robert Wiley to run the pre season and some of the draft period, because of a book launching tour) thought that OUR list of players didnt need much tinkering. Hence the quiet 2012/13 draft period.
There is no doubt the goal from EVERYBODY at the club was to go deep into the 2013 finals - we started off zip from three, and didnt even make the finals. We needed charity entry to the finals and played the tigers in the first week - still beat them, after giving them a 6 goal start.
The next week against the swans we saw the most pathetic performance by a Carlton team in a final (IMO).
People need to stand back for a moment and look at the reality and facts rather than bagging individuals.
Everybody makes errors and in this caper, everybody is trying their best to achieve the most out fo themselves.
Does anyone think that most of the players are?