Mick will be very welcome back at Collingwood after leaving our club in the bottom 6 for years to come. 3 million to delist players is nice. I want that job. No pressure on him next year. According to my collingwood source, he was very involved in list management at the pies in the early days. But, after some bad decisions he wasn't involved. Good example at Carlton would be daisy thomas.

I think you guys are dreaming about Dangerfield or any other top free agent coming. Sure you might get a player like Daisy come across that no one else wants for top dollar. But, Carlton's window has finished and there won't be any top free agents out there wanting to come to a bottom 6 team, which is 10-15 years from a flag.

I think you need to drink more...

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I'm gonna assume you're talking to me and go ahead and drink more.

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"In better news for Blues fans, Jarrad Waite was not named on the club's injury list."

I love the Collingwood source thingy - so he was so bad they won a flag but now...now that they have fixed things.... My 'Collingwood sources" weep after our third bottle of red bemoaning Buckley's insipid coaching and missing the "Malthouse years".

Hate him and bag him but don't drag in "Collingwood sources", that's almost as bad as quoting the herald/sun n an argument.

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Yes, it's pretty "gung ho", but I think our best 22 is becoming much (much) better while our fringe players are a long way off the pace. For mine, we need to be more aggressive in rolling out rookies and drafts if they haven't shown they have what it takes in the first 2 years. We need depth and as I see it the only way to build that is to keep refreshing the fringe parts of our list until gems pop up. We've been guilty of clogging our list with second rate players for far too long.

(This is based on the assumption that coaches can tell if a player's going to make it fairly early on, which I assume and hope they can)

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

With rookies and senior list Waite- Maclean -Robbo- Lucas -Scotland-Garlett-Mciinnes- Temay-Duigan-Cachia Bootsma- 11 players 936 games out
We have picked up 3 - Janco- Whiley and Jones - 85 games in

Do we have 8 to add

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no we are shrinking the list

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Have to save money to pay Malthouse and Thomas contracts.

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dane's trolling again

EFA

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

I think the pies had a very good list / recruitment manager for quite sometime.

So they have a $#it coach then?

No guarantees that pick 19 & 28 will be playing in 2015 to add depth, but should be quality additions to an emerging list.

No doubt another lot of delistings in 2015 will get us at least 3 more quality players via trade/FA with Judd and possibly Carrots freeing up plenty of $.

If we can pick a couple of ready to play recruits in the draft from the VFL SAFL WAFL or the like and have a good run with injury we will be a formidable opponent in 2015.

Having watched all the games again since the season finished we weren't that far off against Premiers Hawks, runners up Swans, and finalists Cats, Freo, Bombers & Tigers. We beat North, Crows....we will be better in 2015.

Booked the family in for NZ game. We are going to watch our Blues play finals footy.

Looking forward to 2015. I like the list a lot. Our talls with the addition of Kreuzer Jaksch & Jones are very mobile. That's important for the running game needed for success.

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so good list = Not Mick

Bad list = Mick


yet they won a flag with bad list Mick...How strange?

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

old goltz is putting on the greatest troll the interwebz has ever seen.

..he definitely has a Kitler..

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Wow.
You missed my point completely.
I am saying he wasnt very involved in recruiting after the early stages at collingwood. Got it genius?

Was mick the list manager at cfc? No
what does a list manager do?
Terry wallace at richmond didnt have too much say at the Tigers which he stated on sen. Was all handled by the list mgr. Sure the coach might have some discussions or get on a plane to meet a player but i think that is where it stops with the coach.

Find an afl pd for list / recruitment mgr and you might understand a bit more about the roles and responsibilities.

Mick doesnt even review game tapes so you think he does a lot of scouting. I think you guys think a snr coach does a lot more then he actually does. There are specialised roles at a club for a reason. People praise mick for rowes improvement, but he would spend majority of his time with the assistant defensive coach. If you dont get what im saying then stop replying with your brainless replies.

Actually Goltz senior coaches set the strategic direction for the whole football department, including list composition ie the structure of the list. Mick may leave the drafting of kids to specialist but last year was all over trading out Hampson, recruiting everitt and thomas

Googleberg

Were you aware that in 2012 Port Power was ranked 17th in the league in list quality by champion data?

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Hey genius,

early days for Mick to have his hands all of their catastrophic recruiting would be...umm...lets guess shall we (not having the ears of your Collinggoodnewsmate) so early days then...The beginning...Mick comes to the club with a strong power base...runs the ship... That would be the establishment of the back to back runners up... then what after that they booted him out? No...okay so when they went back to the draft (and drafted Thomas, Pendles etc) they kicked him out then cos he did too good a job...wait...no...so after they won the flag? Silly...Maybe it was the last 2 years before he left...so that's gone very well hasn't it...From top four to where exactly? (wait I know...they have great kids coming through...Oh I know how that goes!)

Then again..which is really my point ( smug genius line here too) what the @#$%&! are you on about! You're using a Collingwood supporter's opinion 'cos you know that person is going to say 'gee we miss Mick, he was so much better than what we've got...' and really if they did say that, given your hatred of Mick, would you listen anyway? And then after not listening but somehow accepting his whispering tongue licking the hairs of your thick head, quote your sneaky licker (sorry leaker — ie bloke pissing in your pocket) to us? I think not my genius friend (hope by now you're getting the sarcasm - or do you need to phone a friend for elucidation/hallucination?)

So, my point, pointedly is that your points are full of shit, which is fine...hate is always full of shit...but to use a Collingwood expert as the font of knowledge about Mick and his failings??? I mean really, you playing dixie or what?

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