Doubt we'll get a GWS 4 deal again which means cutting that many players will be hard.

Depending on what DVR, Smith, Foster show, they are likely to get 1 or 2 more years. Dick, Tutt and Whiley certainly under the gun. White and Armfield probably in the same boat.

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I'd be pretty disappointed if we failed with yet another draft crop based on that list of names you've given. That's everyone from the 2014 draft except Boekhorst.

I'm confident Gowers, Foster and DVR will survive next year's cull, which will be reduced compared to the previous 3 seasons. Limited trade options and a shallow free agency pool 12 months out has seen to that.

Utterly ridiculous call at this point; those guys were on a significantly reduced program targeted towards building mass.


You didn't count Byrne as a Cat B rookie; it's 9 players.

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If Dick gets cut, the bleeding will continue for some time.

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

We got a bleeder!!!

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Holman is stiff, would have liked to see him persevered with more than any other. Bet Warnock will get a go elsewhere.

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I reckon so!

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"Who discovered we could get milk from cows, and what did he think he was doing at the time?" Billy Connolly

Wow this is a real line in the sand.

I am a bit surprised about both Holman and Walsh going but on the other hand not so surprised that Armfield and White have survived given the massive turnover. Yes I realise that is contradictory. I am guessing that Armfield and White have survived because they have a good work ethic and add some experienced depth.

SOS obviously rates Sumner and Kerridge and it looks likely that pick 8 or 11 will be a midfielder. Maybe pick 19 as well. It is real bad luck for both of these lads to be out of contract at the wrong time in the club's history.

I have a heavy heart about delisting blokes that I still think might just make it. But we have just won yet another spoon. We have been awful.

For the first time in years I detect a ruthless streak from Carlton. It is a bit horrible and a bit of a shock, but it is probably what it will take to get us back up the ladder. SOS, BB, Trigg et al making the hard calls.

I expect to see a far more competitive side next year even if we don't win too many more games.

Also really pleased to see the end of Friday night games. Always hated them.

Triple yep

Holman surprised me. Thought next year was his year to break out. He added to our midfield depth and could kick the ball nicely. With Holman and Walsh going this must mean we are about to draft a couple of midfielders who we rate higher than these two.

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It is not as bad as you are lead to believe.......it is %$#^& worse!!!

All our players have next season as their breakout year. I didn't mind Holman but if we're prepared to cut him it shows we're serious. I'm fine with that. Gut the place.

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Congratulations CK95

Gutting is the easy piece. Hopefully the rebuild is better.

Not next year - year after.

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

He'd be stiff.

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Yeah, I know. Think he'll be on the list proper.

Hopefully this doesn't give away our draft intentions too much...

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Oh no you DI'nt.....!


kindest regards tommi

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Rebuild and ruthless I get, as we can't keep accepting mediocrity (although mediocre is better than we currently are !), but Holman goes and Tutt stays. Hmmm not sure I get that, other than Tutt is fast, but gee he's not much else. Holman a good lefty kick so fits the Hawks mould, and also hard at it and looked to be aclimatising well to AFL level ?

Existing contracts and TPP, is what it's about.

Foster you'd assume will get more time unless he is really bad. Can't expect a tall forward to be ready in 2 years. Just needs to show he's taken another step.

I did too, now I'm not so sure SOS will take the risk. I think he's eyeing off 6 picks, most likely all at the National Draft.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.