oh you mean these comments frankie

"I know there are others on the Jesse Smith bandwagon and Im on this guy goes at it 100% -seems to love the work- murdered the tackle bags but also hits the ball hard "

I completely agree with you, especially the last two bits

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As we have only one Veteran on the list - Kouta - and we have a full complement of 5 rookies at the close of the rookie draft, then shouldn't we be able to nominate 1 of the rookies as a "Nominated Rookie"? That rookie would be available for senior selection without needing to wait for a long-term injury.

One of the more famous "nominated rookies" of recent times was Aaron Davey who played seniors while on the rookie list for essentially the whole of his first year.

Watched a bit of Smith in the magoos last season.Goes in very,very hard for the footy and that wins me every time.Very ferocious attack on the pill.But apart from that inside stuff,he actually covers a huge amount of territory.Must wrack big K's.Travels so far and wide he was nicknamed ROADDOG by our pal Phoenix J.
On a cautionary note,a bit one paced.Lacks a bit of breakaway speed.But more than earnt his rookie spot and definately in the running for a promotion.

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We only need them to be ONE paced. As long as it's really fast....

Can rookies play Wiz Cup?

i beileve so...not sure

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Slightly off topic, but what a crap game AFL is becoming if a hard-at-it ballwinning midfielder struggles to get on a list just because he doesn't have breakaway speed.

It used to be that all body-types could rise to the top in our game, provided the skill and/or desire was there. Now you need your parents to gift you fast-twitch muscle fibres. If I wanna watch athletes, I'll go see track&field meets.

Setanta did. Can't remember if we had a LTI though?

Yes they can.

I'm with you BlueWorld

No doubt about it - rookies can play.

But it is hard to fit 44 players into the 24 man team as we found out at the start of this year. If you don't have a lot of senior players carrying injuries, and you want to play some of the younger senior-listed players such as Russell, Hartlett, Blackwell, Setanta, Murphy and perhaps Raso, there aren't that many opportunities for the rookies.

Unless of course your smart like Sydney and rest your stars and play only your rookies, kids and fringe players.

No we have our full complement of 38 players on our primary list. So we can't promote any of our 5 rookies unless we have a LTI.

As I understand it Melbourne had 37 players on their primary list when Aaron Davey was a rookie player. They just didn't have enough cash to pay for a 38th player. Finally they found the money and then was able to promote Aaron.


Setanta was promoted because Fisher had already been placed on the LTI list.

....craziest thing happened today. Now, i think i have mad everyone aware of the fact that both Jesse and I are Sunbury boys, but what i didnt know is that he still lives here. I was over a a family friend's house tonight, went upstrairs to use the toilet. Im standing there taking a piss, look out the window and see this guy. i think "holy f***, that looks like J.D Smith".....go down stairs, "hey, did you guys know theres an AFL footballer living next door?" "yeah, we've met them already..."

*Things to do while taking a piss #305 - Spot Jesse Smith*

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i think you are wrong you can have 38 players on your list plus 2 veterans and if you only have one veteran you can promte a rookie

hope that helps

I'm pretty sure that Davey was a "nominated rookie" when he played in the seniors, Malleefowl. They did have to raise some money as nominated rookies are entitled to a higher base payment. Once they were able to afford it, they nominated him to the AFL and he was eligible to play immediately.

These articles from the AFL site prove this:

Davey's rapid rise
National Rising Star Award

The Collective Bargaining Agreement provides as follows:

From where I stand, we fit neatly into sub-clause 14.6(a), so we have a right to nominate one rookie for senior selection. Anyone disagree?

Great story Shag. Did you shake once or twice more than usual?

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i think that about covers it SOS

Thanks SOS. You remind me of a poster named mav...

It's only the sixth time we've had the nominated rookie debate, too. Hope that one clears it up : )

Ok, so we’re allowed a nominated rookie.
A hypothetical question.
Say we declare Jessie as a nominated rookie and he is eligible to play senior footy. If say Barney or McLaren goes down with a 10 week “Long Term Injuryâ€

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I think jesse will be fine on the rookie list this season - he hasnt consistently dominated the twos yet, like bentick has done, and blackers to some extent towards the end of the season.

I would like to see jesse have a dominating season for the bullants this season, playing most of the time on the ball hopefully, he was starved of opportunities for awhile in the twos, and had to play off the bench at times.

I think blackers and jesse will be fighting for the same position in the ones over the next few years, muprhy of course will be ahead of them!!! hopefully!!

I dont think we should expect jesse in the ones this season, but i agree with the sentiment that he has potential to be a very solid midfielder, espceially if he works on his speed and fitness, which it appears he is doing.

i admire your loyalty to hoops frank - he is a tough one to defend at times, but i think everyone agrees he has skill, its only the second efforts, or lack of, that concern most of us. I hope we see tough hoola as much as possible this season!