Should change his name to War, what is he good for?

Actually feel bad for him now. The players have totally checked out after one single really bad season.

Sacking him isn't the magic bullet.

I actually don't think the players have checked out. I think they are not that clever and have very poor skills and decision making ability.
We have recruited dumb football players with poor skills.
They bust their arse but are not that good.

It could be that we are playing to much youth and don't have enough 4,5,and 6 year players on the list and the ones we do have are out

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Yeah with our so called super six either injured or badly out of form, we've been exposed. Big time.

I’d more says it’s been 1 good year, 2 bad years and 1 horrible year.

Enough of a sample size this is his coaching group and his team.

I know, yet he has our best win rate since Parkin. Hard to ignore that.

Maybe not so worthy in a diluted, 18-team comp? We've had soft kills against shit teams?

With the list that Austin gave him Vossy needed everything to go right.
There is no way in hell this team was going to be competing missing Newman JSOS Harry Walsh Saad Cotrell Kemp Elijah and possibly Jagga.

It is close to half the first choice team sitting in the stands
Add to this your first choice ruckman has chosen to leave and playing like it.

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I don't rate Voss/assistants that highly but I think a lot of those points are correct.

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Hit the nail on the head

Too much reliance on our better players. It was never sustainable as a good system is more important than a bunch of star players who can win games off their own boot.

Voss sat on his laurels and should have realised we weren’t ready to contend as the foundation for success wasn’t there. In fact the club continually gets this wrong.

I do feel for Cripps as I don’t think he could have done much more for the club. Unfortunately now tainted with the loser tag.

The problem with the game plan...

It requires Cripps to be in Brownlow form...
It requires Curnow to be in Coleman form...
It requires Weitering to be in AA form...

...to have any chance. We lose these 3 to LTI's and then we're truly [REDACTED].

Players unavailable is an issue but there's problem with treating an injury list amount as an arbitrary number. Most players you should be able to replace as the next man up... in a proper system based plan.

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We all know it’s done. Voss more than likely does too.

Making him do the pressers, particularly after another inept performance, is incredibly weak and gutless by Priestley, Cook, Lloyd and Wright.

The club is [REDACTED]. Treating us like mugs.

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True.

Except your last line seems to be contadictive.

Injury is an issue, but a number doesn’t represent a tipping point?

Not arbitrary at all. It’s empirical and we have not been able to win with more than 8 out, consistently, even against the bottom teams. Fact. Says something about our list.

We had 6 kids, not one which is what Pies had. Can’t put a seasoned head on 6. We are spread too thin and promoting players to get games into them, not the panacea to fill a gap…..we had 10 gaps to fill. There’s a breaking point. We know what it is. No point ignoring it, believing another coach can weave their magic to overcome inexperience and unproven kids.

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Wouldn't it look weak to excuse him from the presser?

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Relieving him of the duty and one of them fronting it themselves is weak?

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My gut tells me we need to stick with Voss.

Make changes to the footy department and assistant coaches as necessary and make it clear to the players that if they don't want to play for Voss, we'll find them a new home in the off season.

Even if Voss isn't our next premiership coach, he's more than capable of leading the team for a couple more years until we get the back room staff and culture of the club fixed. There's no rush to move on from him.

This idea that a change in coach and one or two trades will have us top 4 next year is a fantasy. Our problems run much deeper than that.

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Agree with this, if we have a good run with injuries we know Voss can take us deep into the finals. If we decide to rebuild, or even refresh the list, and/or have a a bad run with injuries replacing the coach won’t fix anything.

I say that whatever else we do (and we do need to do other stuff like revamp the list, assistant coaches and football department) we should stick with Voss until end of 2026.

Regardless of what the Pres has said he will be lucky to last out the month let alone the season.

Jungle drums beating pretty loud.

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It’s pointless sticking with him until the end of 2026. They need to either re-sign him for an extra 2 years or sack him at the end of this year.

Nobody in their right mind will come if there’s nothing but noise around the senior coach for all of next year, and let’s be honest, we’ll probably be shot again so that’s a likely outcome.

Totally agree. For once the board needs to ignore the beating jungle drums. Retaining Voss provides stability in the football department and enables the focus to be 100% on a major list overhaul. It may also help attract the experienced players we need to fill the gaps in our list.

I agree...

If we decide the coach is not to blame and go down the rebuild route, then we need to extend his contract... so he can oversee said rebuild.

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