tap in 79 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
tap in 79 wrote:
Humpers wrote:
Swans 2025 & 2026 1st rounder plus Hayward is fair IMO.
I'm not too bothered about Florent.
But no way we give them back pick #22.
Hayward has never finished in the top 10 in the Swans b&f....and they think Carlton will take this bloke in a trade???
They clearly think Carlton's list managers are friggin stupid or they thoroughly disrespect Carlton, thinking the Blues are a substandard team that will take whatever they are given.
So disrespectful.
I wouldnt judge Hayward's ability from Sydney's BnF results.
We went hard at him last year. We wanted him. Sydney wanted him more and offered him a 5 year contract. That's his value.
In 2024, Sydney made the Grand Final. Will kicked 41 goals, 16 behinds and 10 goal assists. He also had 47 Inside 50's.
He was considered for AA as a HF.
In the same year, 2024, the Bloods top 10 were Heeney, Gulden, Warner, Grundy, Blakey, Rowbottom,
Florent, Jordan, Lloyd, Papley. All of those top 10 players deserved their spot in the top 10. No shame not making top 10 in that year.
Put it this way, Hayward is more reliable than Elijah. We need to be improving on every line, especially forward of centre which is what cost us 6-7 games in 2025.
Hayward is 26yo.
2024?
He didn’t make the All-Australian squad.
He can’t make even in one year the Swans’ top 10?
Sorry. That says something to me.
They must think Carlton’s recruiting team are dumber than a box of rocks.
If they make this trade, it confirms they are dopes.
Even Adam Cerra has made the Blues’ top 10.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1206901/44- ... team-namedI didnt say he was in the squad or he was an AA, but merely recalling he was in the conversation all year, such was his form in 2024. He's a good footballer; B Grader, but had an A grader's year in 2024. That's all.
Not sure the relevance of Cerra i this conversation, other than, I'm guessing, you don't rate Cerra?, and you rate Swans Best 22 equal to Carlton's squad over the last 5 years?
I get Charlie is an A Grader and we should be looking to get an A Grader back, and that's what we've asked, but, that doesn't look like its going to happen, so what do we do?
Some would be happy with Hayward Florent and 2025 and 2026 first round picks. I would, but I'd also like a 2nd rounder for this year too.
I don't believe for a minute our recruitment team (I think you mean List Manager) is dumb, and they would really know if the club really wants Charlie to stay or not. I have no clue.
I'm eargerly waiting for the outcome TODAY!!!
Curious. What do you expect in the Trade for Charlie?