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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:49 pm 
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The AFL wishes to advise the Match Review Panel has assessed the following incidents from the weekend's round of matches. Please note that the Match Review Panel deliberations are not yet complete.

Charges Laid:

Ryan Hargrave, Western Bulldogs, has been charged with a Level Three striking offence against James McDonald, Melbourne, during the second quarter of the Round Two match between the Western Bulldogs and Melbourne, played at Telstra Dome on Saturday April 8, 2006.

His two-match suspension cannot be reduced with an early plea, due to his prior record.

The incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), medium impact (two points), in play (no points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, which relates to Level Three offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match suspension. He has an applicable bad record of four matches suspended within the last three years which increases his penalty by 30 per cent (67.50 points) and a further 21.88 residual points, increasing his penalty to 314.38 points and a three-game suspension. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 235.79 points and a two-game suspension.

David Hille, Essendon*, has been charged with a Level Two striking offence against Mitchell Clark, Brisbane Lions, during the fourth quarter of the Round Two match between Essendon* and the Brisbane Lions, played at the Gabba on Saturday April 8, 2006.

His one-match suspension cannot be reduced with an early plea, due to his prior record.

The incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), low impact (one point), in play (no points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of five activation points, which relates to a Level Two offence, drawing 125 demerit points and a one-match suspension. He has an applicable bad record of two matches suspended within the last three years, which increases his penalty by 10 per cent (12.50 points) and a further 43.75 residual points, increasing his penalty to 181.25 points and a one-game suspension. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 135.94 points and a one-game suspension.

Paul Medhurst, Fremantle, has been charged with a Level Three engaging in rough conduct offence against Ryan Houlihan, Carlton, during the first quarter of the Round Two match between Fremantle and Carlton, played at Subiaco on Saturday April 8, 2006.

He can accept a one-game suspension with an early plea.

The incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), medium impact (two points), in play (no points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, which relates to Level Three offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match suspension. He has no applicable good or bad record. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 168.75 points and a one-game suspension.

Will Slade, Geelong, has been charged with a first offence for wrestling Leigh Harding, the Kangaroos, during the first quarter of the Round Two match between Geelong and the Kangaroos, played at Skilled Stadium on Saturday April 8, 2006.

He can accept a $900 fine with an early plea.

A first offence for wrestling is a $1200 fine. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to a $900 fine.

Steven King, Geelong, has been charged with a first offence for wrestling Shannon Grant, the Kangaroos, at the first quarter siren of the Round Two match between Geelong and the Kangaroos, played at Skilled Stadium on Saturday April 8, 2006.

He can accept a $900 fine with an early plea.

A first offence for wrestling is a $1200 fine. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to a $900 fine.

Matthew Scarlett, Geelong, has been charged with a Level Four striking offence against Leigh Harding, the Kangaroos, during the first quarter of the Round Two match between Geelong and the Kangaroos, played at Skilled Stadium on Saturday April 8, 2006.

He can accept a two-match suspension with an early plea.

The incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), low impact (one point), behind play (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of seven activation points, which relates to Level Four offence, drawing 325 demerit points and a three-match suspension. He has no applicable good or bad record. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 243.75 points and a two-game suspension.

Other incidents assessed: No Charge Laid.

The match day report laid against West Coast's Quinten Lynch was reviewed. It was the view of the Match Review Panel that Lynch initially threw his leg out but was quick to realise the danger of his action and withdrew his leg quickly to avoid any contact. The charge was subsequently withdrawn.

Contact between Melbourne's Matthew Whelan and the Western Bulldogs' Adam Morgan from the third quarter of Saturday's match was reviewed. It was the view of the panel the impact made by Whelan was deemed to be below the level required to constitute a reportable offence. No action was therefore taken.

Contact between Fremantle's Josh Carr and umpire Martin Ellis from the first quarter of Saturday's match was reviewed. The contact was deemed to be accidental and no further action was required.

The AFL Match Review Panel also investigated an incident where contact was made to Carlton's Marc Murphy during the first quarter of Saturday's match. Due to a lack of vision of the incident or any other evidence from any party which could identify the player or players responsible for the contact to Murphy, no further action could be taken.

For charges laid by the Match Review Panel, clubs and players have until 11am tomorrow, Tuesday April 11, to decide whether to accept the penalty allocated, or to contest the case.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:06 pm 
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fevolaaaa wrote:
The AFL Match Review Panel also investigated an incident where contact was made to Carlton's Marc Murphy during the first quarter of Saturday's match. Due to a lack of vision of the incident or any other evidence from any party which could identify the player or players responsible for the contact to Murphy, no further action could be taken.



How many friggin cameras are there suppose to be. That is just pathetic as a reason. Gutless sniper


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I'd love it if Fox Footy didn't get the footy after 2006 somehow, surely they have less cameras covering the footy than anyone else, and the commentators are disgraceful except for Grybas

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fevolaaaa wrote:
I'd love it if Fox Footy didn't get the footy after 2006 somehow, surely they have less cameras covering the footy than anyone else, and the commentators are disgraceful except for Grybas

I think Fox and Ten use similar crews, it really shows compared to Nine's coverage. We need more cameras, even if the visual quality on them is poor, just for the sake of covering this incidents.

Weak as piss Carr, a shade of yourself. I hope Medhurst thinks he's clever and gets 2 or more.

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Typical for there to be no vision when it's against Carlton. Surely Medhurst should get more than a week, that was a dog act.


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I look forward to the day that Kennedy stands on Carr's and take mark of the year. It will be the only immortality the guy deserves - like Jerker Jenkin under Jezza.

The number of times this sort of thing happens to us is very irritating.


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Why does the tribunal need camera vision...

Forgive me here...but wasn't one of the reasons of increasing the umpires to three was to curb behind the play and off the ball problems?? :roll:

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italian_styles wrote:
Typical for there to be no vision when it's against Carlton. Surely Medhurst should get more than a week, that was a dog act.


Was a dog act, but Waite got off the week before on the grounds that there was not enough vision.

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How unlikely is it that Waite tripped Pickett though, I mean honestly. No one even saw Pickett go down.

Here it was plain to see.

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As I have said elsewhere at the ground on the day I saw Lappin give Dodd a (well deserved) rip in the guts. People on my side of the ground saw it but few others, and it was behind play so the umps obviously weren't lookin. Not to compare it with Carr's low-dog act, but its swings and roundabouts.

Remember when Campo smashed Holland in the face and there was no vision?

I am glad though that smart-arse Medhurst capped off a dirty game against us with a 1 week suspension.


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Ponkstar wrote:

Remember when Campo smashed Holland in the face and there was no vision?



Campo should serve a retrospective suspension for that act. I'm sure all Carlton supporters, even at the time, believed Campo deserved to be penalised for what he did to Brody. Scott looks happy in his little aeroplane red and blacks right now but nine weeks off would be fitting...







(Josh Carr is only half the player Marc Murphy is. To serve a second game player that kind of attention is evidence.)


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You're right...and it only seems so fair!! 8)

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Murphy will attract that sort if attention as he is a ball player....like I said on the other thread about Medhurst v Houlihan..
Josh Carr should have been dropped behind the play and our player take the penalty..call it an investment for the future..Murphy is a gun and needs protection and obviously the umpires and tribunal wont give it to him so he needs some looking after on the field by his teammates..I want young Murphy feeling confident he can stick his head over the ball and that his teammates will back him up...not just talk and push and play handies but actually deal with this scum element like Carr, Pickett etc and let them know its not on ....

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Elwood Blues1 wrote:
Murphy will attract that sort if attention as he is a ball player....like I said on the other thread about Medhurst v Houlihan..
Josh Carr should have been dropped behind the play and our player take the penalty..call it an investment for the future..Murphy is a gun and needs protection and obviously the umpires and tribunal wont give it to him so he needs some looking after on the field by his teammates..I want young Murphy feeling confident he can stick his head over the ball and that his teammates will back him up...not just talk and push and play handies but actually deal with this scum element like Carr, Pickett etc and let them know its not on ....


Why dont we just sit Chris Bryan down and have a word to him. We tell him that he is probably not as talented as some of the kids coming through and eventually the spot in the team he is eyeing off is going to be taken by one of the high draft picks on the list. Rather than wait for delisting.......we have another opening on the list. We are in need of a 'Gunfighter'!!!

Chris gets a game on the bench. Maybe he even gets a kick or 2 in the 'small ruck' rotation. But when the baloon goes up, he is in no doubt that his job is to 'fly the flag'. Flat out lays out Josh Carr, Byron Pickett, Medhurst, whoever. No pushing & shoving, no wrestling, no dancing about like a fairy, just straight over and..........BANG!!! If he gets 3 weeks, big deal. We accept that he is going to get suspensions because he is our specialty thug!!! Specialty thug on an AFL list has to be better than delisting, right???

Mess with our boys and get in line for 'the gunfighter'!!! Can you imagine out on the field:

"Hey Chriso........this peanut here is getting a bit cute!!!"

"Righto Murph, be there in a minute"


*****BBBBBAAAANNNNGGG!!!******

or even better, when the runner comes out and the other player is still standing close by:

Runner: "was it this guy" (said pointing to the offending opponent)

Murph: (through clenched teeth) "Yep"

Runner: "Dennis wants to know so he can send Chriso out to break some ribs, we've planned on him being out for 4 weeks anyway!!"

Obviously he trains to try and disguise the hits but the main thing would be that he wouldnt just be a hard player that sometimes gets tough, he would be a designated hitter!!! main task, belt blokes!!

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Elwood Blues1 wrote:
Murphy will attract that sort if attention as he is a ball player....like I said on the other thread about Medhurst v Houlihan..
Josh Carr should have been dropped behind the play and our player take the penalty..call it an investment for the future..Murphy is a gun and needs protection and obviously the umpires and tribunal wont give it to him so he needs some looking after on the field by his teammates..I want young Murphy feeling confident he can stick his head over the ball and that his teammates will back him up...not just talk and push and play handies but actually deal with this scum element like Carr, Pickett etc and let them know its not on ....


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Elwood Blues1 wrote:
Murphy will attract that sort if attention as he is a ball player....like I said on the other thread about Medhurst v Houlihan..
Josh Carr should have been dropped behind the play and our player take the penalty..call it an investment for the future..Murphy is a gun and needs protection and obviously the umpires and tribunal wont give it to him so he needs some looking after on the field by his teammates..I want young Murphy feeling confident he can stick his head over the ball and that his teammates will back him up...not just talk and push and play handies but actually deal with this scum element like Carr, Pickett etc and let them know its not on ....


Why dont we just sit Chris Bryan down and have a word to him. We tell him that he is probably not as talented as some of the kids coming through and eventually the spot in the team he is eyeing off is going to be taken by one of the high draft picks on the list. Rather than wait for delisting.......we have another opening on the list. We are in need of a 'Gunfighter'!!!

Chris gets a game on the bench. Maybe he even gets a kick or 2 in the 'small ruck' rotation. But when the baloon goes up, he is in no doubt that his job is to 'fly the flag'. Flat out lays out Josh Carr, Byron Pickett, Medhurst, whoever. No pushing & shoving, no wrestling, no dancing about like a fairy, just straight over and..........BANG!!! If he gets 3 weeks, big deal. We accept that he is going to get suspensions because he is our specialty thug!!! Specialty thug on an AFL list has to be better than delisting, right???

Mess with our boys and get in line for 'the gunfighter'!!! Can you imagine out on the field:

"Hey Chriso........this peanut here is getting a bit cute!!!"

"Righto Murph, be there in a minute"


*****BBBBBAAAANNNNGGG!!!******

or even better, when the runner comes out and the other player is still standing close by:

Runner: "was it this guy" (said pointing to the offending opponent)

Murph: (through clenched teeth) "Yep"

Runner: "Dennis wants to know so he can send Chriso out to break some ribs, we've planned on him being out for 4 weeks anyway!!"

Obviously he trains to try and disguise the hits but the main thing would be that he wouldnt just be a hard player that sometimes gets tough, he would be a designated hitter!!! main task, belt blokes!!


brillant

hell, i would be willing to play for $40k a year and come out retirement to fill the role.

first target - Jeff Farmer - i would end up missing half the season though after i fixed him :twisted: but dont worry, i would get Carr in the same game as well :twisted:

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...but actually deal with this scum element like Carr, Pickett etc and let them know its not on ....


Pickett is not scum. He's hard, but fair. That bump from last year was an example of timing gone horribly wrong.

My mate who used to play for Brisbane reckons Vossy was the worst sniper in the AFL at his peak - and was proud of it. He knew when it was game time because the better players would square up within 5 minutes... then he'd burn them up for 50-odd touches...

Marc Murphy is a smart kid who keeps his head 'up' and knows when he's about to take a lick. Carr's was a dog act, but that's football.

As the great office linebacker "Terrible" Terry Tate used to say... "When it's game time, its pain time baby... Whoooooooo"

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As the great office linebacker "Terrible" Terry Tate used to say... "When it's game time, its pain time baby... Whoooooooo"


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Yes, let's beat the thugs by being thugs, what a great plan.

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Crusader wrote:
Elwood Blues1 wrote:
...but actually deal with this scum element like Carr, Pickett etc and let them know its not on ....


Pickett is not scum. He's hard, but fair. That bump from last year was an example of timing gone horribly wrong.

My mate who used to play for Brisbane reckons Vossy was the worst sniper in the AFL at his peak - and was proud of it. He knew when it was game time because the better players would square up within 5 minutes... then he'd burn them up for 50-odd touches...

Marc Murphy is a smart kid who keeps his head 'up' and knows when he's about to take a lick. Carr's was a dog act, but that's football.

As the great office linebacker "Terrible" Terry Tate used to say... "When it's game time, its pain time baby... Whoooooooo"



Pickett is a sniper.....Byron has a habit of his timing going horribly wrong..he always seems to time it that he connects with a player bent over the ball unprotected who doesnt see him coming usually from a distance.
I'd like to see another player get their timing a bit wrong and Byron stretchered off ...

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